I need to listen to ATR more often - Page 7

slotdirt · #**121** 06-17-2010, 02:20 PM

Will's Way, Skip Away, Siphon, Formal Gold.

Indian Charlie · #**122** 06-17-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

I can think of 5 from 2003 alone, and I'm not sure this is an all-time year:

Mineshaft, Candy Ride, Congaree, Medaglia d'Oro, and Pleasantly Perfect

Or the year that had Gentlemen, Skip Away, Will's Way and Formal Gold.

randallscott35 · #**123** 06-17-2010, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg

http://www.paulickreport.com/blog/byk-disses-zenyatta/

I must say, I'm more in the Steve Davidowitz camp...

I love it, one of the comments calls Steve the Limbaugh of racing....Haha. I'm sure you'd be happy to cash Rush's paycheck.

blackthroatedwind · #**124** 06-17-2010, 02:39 PM

Somebody should print the list of people that Byk has shown extraordinary kindness and generosity to in this game. In fact, his biggest fault is being too nice.

Port Conway Lane · #**125** 06-17-2010, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Actually, I think he is on track to easily making that list. 50 over 25 years, so an average of 2 a year in an age when horses race less and less and many great 3yo's are sent to the breeding shed. He's set 3 track records in a short career. How many others can say that since 1985?

Spend A Buck ?

OldDog · #**126** 06-17-2010, 02:53 PM

Steve Byk: "...in the meantime, before we do that, let me welcome in Seth Merrow."

Seth Merrow: "I...I'm scared."

I thought Steve was going to jump out of my computer. dayum.

It's all opinions. Davidowitz said, “There’s a very unusual dimension to her, and there are to all great horses. They have something different.” He said that he knows that many will disagree with him, and that that's fine. He's just telling what he sees, and why not? It's what he gets paid to do. He also said that Z is, “the best older racemare I have ever seen.” Again, it's his opinion.

Sidebar: There's a lot of talk about trying to bring people back to horseracing, or introduce new people to the sport. Many experienced players seem to worry a lot that newcomers are going to think that Z is perhaps better than she is. Yes, a lot of newbies are going to believe that Z is the greatest horse, whether or not she is. But, people seek out greatness, and if they're new to the sport then maybe she is the greatest horse that they've ever seen. And yeah, maybe you can come back at them with 100 reasons why they're wrong, and if you do, what have you accomplished if you beat them over the head with it?

Thunder Gulch · #**127** 06-17-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

That Ouija Board was only 10 for 22 lifetime! Hardly the stuff of legend!

Another statement that is impossibly clueless to the point that I don't know if you are serious or just stirring the pot.

Rupert Pupkin · #**128** 06-17-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Dunbar, I will bet you that Zenyatta will not race again this year outside of the Pacific time zone. Name your price. Breeders Cup Classic on dirt? I laughed.

Why would you possibly think that they aren't going to run in the BC Classic? Of course she will run in the BC Classic. The only way she won't is if she gets hurt. The BC Classic is their goal and has been all year.

She will probably only run twice between now and then. I guess if she loses one of her next two races, that could change their plans. But otherwise she will definitely be there.

slotdirt · #**129** 06-17-2010, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Another statement that is impossibly clueless to the point that I don't know if you are serious or just stirring the pot.

I didn't think it required explaining, I was hoping that folks would see the juxtaposition of Smooth Operator's critique of Winning Colors for only going 8 of 19 and a short list of several other HOF-worthy fillies and mares who also didn't win 50 percent of their starts and further note the sheer ludicrousness of his statement.

slotdirt · #**130** 06-17-2010, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Why would you possibly think that they aren't going to run in the BC Classic? Of course she will run in the BC Classic. The only way she won't is if she gets hurt. The BC Classic is their goal and has been all year.

She will probably only run twice between now and then. I guess if she loses one of her next two races, that could change their plans. But otherwise she will definitely be there.

They're not going to run in the Breeders Cup Classic, quite simply, because 20 for 20 will be on the line, and if there's a chance she could lose, I'd bet a bazillion dollars they'll keep her in SoCal this November to go for that all-time mark.

After all the hemming and hawing about her schedule in the past, I don't know why it's suddenly a foregone conclusion that she'll be in Louisville this November.

RockHardTen1985 · #**131** 06-17-2010, 03:21 PM

Whats up with this surface issue crap? I hate synthetics, BUT ITS PART OF THE GAME, AND TAKES NOTHING AWAY FROM ZENYATTA.

Rupert Pupkin · #**132** 06-17-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

They're not going to run in the Breeders Cup Classic, quite simply, because 20 for 20 will be on the line, and if there's a chance she could lose, I'd bet a bazillion dollars they'll keep her in SoCal this November to go for that all-time mark.

After all the hemming and hawing about her schedule in the past, I don't know why it's suddenly a foregone conclusion that she'll be in Louisville this November.

I'll bet you however much money you want when the time comes. Winning the BC Classic is much more important to them than beating Pepper's Pride's streak.

slotdirt · #**133** 06-17-2010, 03:26 PM

If that were the case, she's be retired right now. SHe's in training for some sort of Zenyatta victory tour and to set the all-time modern day wins mark. I just can't imagine that is going to include a trip to Louisville. Given what we know about the connections and the kid gloves with which they handle the mare, going to Louisville would be beyond out of character.

RockHardTen1985 · #**134** 06-17-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'll bet you however much money you want when the time comes. Winning the BC Classic is much more important to them than beating Pepper's Pride's streak.

Agree, if shes healthy shes at Churchill this year. Regardless of how good/deep the group is coming up, they will not skip the Classic.

Cannon Shell · #**135** 06-17-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Hah.

When BP was past his prime, maybe.

Not at the top of his game.

When was he in his prime? Like 2 weeks a year?

Cannon Shell · #**136** 06-17-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gaining Ground

you aren't impressed with a filly winning the derby over the likes of forty niner, risen star, seeking the gold, private terms, brians time and others. but winning a race over gio ponti and twice over does impress you?

seems warped to me.

or winning the SA Derby by 12

Rupert Pupkin · #**137** 06-17-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

If that were the case, she's be retired right now. SHe's in training for some sort of Zenyatta victory tour and to set the all-time modern day wins mark. I just can't imagine that is going to include a trip to Louisville. Given what we know about the connections and the kid gloves with which they handle the mare, going to Louisville would be beyond out of character.

One of the main reasons they brought her back was because they honestly believed she could beat Rachel. They brought her back so that she could face Rachel. They also want to win HOY this year and they know that they have to win the BC Classic to do it.

Cannon Shell · #**138** 06-17-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

One of the main reasons they brought her back was because they honestly believed she could beat Rachel. They brought her back so that she could face Rachel. They also want to win HOY this year and they know that they have to win the BC Classic to do it.

Are you insinuating that RA will be in the BC Classic? I think thats a longer shot than Z being there

Rupert Pupkin · #**139** 06-17-2010, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Are you insinuating that RA will be in the BC Classic? I think thats a longer shot than Z being there

I have no idea if RA will be there. I think it will depend on how she progresses between now and then. If they don't feel she's back to 100%, I don't think she will be there.

Cannon Shell · #**140** 06-17-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I have no idea if RA will be there. I think it will depend on how she progresses between now and then. If they don't feel she's back to 100%, I don't think she will be there.

That's when horseracing jumped the shark, when feelings came into play...