Vote on Debt Limit increase?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Duvalier

Nascar STFU

GFY

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Do they get said pension at the age of 40?

You have sunk to an absolute ALL-TIME LOW... WOW, I am too disgusted to even comment.

Some might. Just you're jealous at what I have and you would like to have but you can't have, doesn't mean you should bash the military for it J@ck@ss. You are so f ing pathetic. It is because of people like you why I wish there would a draft. A shame it wouldn't affect you if there was a draft. I don't think military would put up with a miserable SOB like you are.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are a truly ignorant fool. Obama has already brought home over 100,000 troops from Iraq, and they will all be out within 8 weeks (July). Afghanistan is starting to be aggressively drawn down at the same time.

BTW, right now the President is speaking on the middle east - are you bothering to listen to what he's saying?

You think that only people that served in the military can care about our troops? How ridiculous. You're an un-American, un-patriotic idiot.

Besides, the conversation was about the defense contractors that were made rich under the Bush administration. You can't even follow a subject line. You post your off-the-wall nonsense that has nothing to do with what's being talked about.

STFU, Nascar.

STFU you despicable unt. I have better things to do in my life than listen to a deceiving person.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

I posted two things that refute Dell's numbers - you and Dell have just ignored it.

I think Dell's numbers are more accurate. But yes, you did counter with numbers of your own, rather than others who use an abbreviation for a crass figure of speech.

My dispute with your numbers was the "regular spending" qualifier. The total is all that matters - whether military, social, stimulus, etc is irrelevant. The total overspending drives the yearly deficit, which then accumulate into the national debt.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

I think Dell's numbers are more accurate. But yes, you did counter with numbers of your own, rather than others who use an abbreviation for a crass figure of speech.

My dispute with your numbers was the "regular spending" qualifier. The total is all that matters - whether military, social, stimulus, etc is irrelevant. The total overspending drives the yearly deficit, which then accumulate into the national debt.

My numbers didn't include what I said, above. I was using that to try to get Dell to separate it out by who incurred what debt. And they were not "created" by me.

The one set Dell posted is our national debt, separated by time. The two sets I posted is our national debt, separated by the President who incurred it. Which is the whole point, if one is going to accuse Obama of raising the national debt more than Bush W. That is simply false.

Here it is. Our political viewpoints don't matter, here is our national debt by the President that incurred it. And it has clearly been Republican Presidents from Reagan onward. Not Democratic. (and the congressional makeup is listed, too) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...idential_terms

Economic commentators have noted a pattern between changes in US national debt and US presidential terms over the last few decades. These commentators observe that changes in US national debt have been correlated with the political ideology of the ruling administration.

Economist Mike Kimel notes that the last five Democratic Presidents (Clinton, Carter, LBJ, JFK, and Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (GW Bush, GHW Bush, Reagan, and Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country’s indebtedness.[1]

Economic historian J. Bradford DeLong observes a contrast not so much between Republicans and Democrats, but between Democrats and "old-style Republicans (Eisenhower and Nixon)" on one hand (decreasing debt), and "new-style Republicans" on the other (increasing debt).[2]

Similarly, Republican David Stockman, director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Ronald Reagan, as op-ed contributor to the New York Times blamed the "ideological tax-cutters" of the Reagan administration for the increase of national debt during the 1980s.[3]

I don't know why you "think" Dell's numbers are more accurate. I didn't even see a reference posted as to where he got them. My two sets were made separately, by different organizations, but both agree, both are referenced, and are CBO data.

But the point is this: the Republican meme that the GOP is "fiscally responsible", while the Democrats are "big spenders", is obviously and historically false.

[Antitrust32]

I'm still pretty bothered by that "i hope someone you know comes home in a body bag" thing.

Nascar you really should explain yourself. If you really meant that you are a pathetic excuse for a human being. just sickens me.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

STFU you despicable unt. I have better things to do in my life than listen to a deceiving person.

you mean like wish death on the very people who serve our country?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Some might. Just you're jealous at what I have and you would like to have but you can't have, doesn't mean you should bash the military for it J@ck@ss. You are so f ing pathetic. It is because of people like you why I wish there would a draft. A shame it wouldn't affect you if there was a draft. I don't think military would put up with a miserable SOB like you are.

Bash the Military? Because I said that they shouldnt get retirement benefits starting at 40? Everyone hates you here and it bothers the sh*t out of you... Why else would you go to such great lengths to tell everyone that you don't care.

On another note.... You wished death on a military man and I wished that their pensions start later... Who is the bigger scumbag? Now I'm sure you will answer by completely changing the subject like you always do since you do not have the mental acuity to do otherwise.

On another note I am considering using your post wishing death on a military person as a signature pointing out that they booted Randall yet let you stay.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

STFU you despicable unt. I have better things to do in my life than listen to a deceiving person.

Your mouth is foul. Looking at the past page after page after page of your individual posts under your name, it seems your whole purpose in life is posting hate talk and cursing. You don't do anything else.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your mouth is foul. Looking at the past page after page after page of your individual posts under your name, it seems your whole purpose in life is posting hate talk and cursing. You don't do anything else.

At least I don't accuse someone of spouse abuse without proof.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Bash the Military? Because I said that they shouldnt get retirement benefits starting at 40? Everyone hates you here and it bothers the sh*t out of you... Why else would you go to such great lengths to tell everyone that you don't care.

On another note.... You wished death on a military man and I wished that their pensions start later... Who is the bigger scumbag? Now I'm sure you will answer by completely changing the subject like you always do since you do not have the mental acuity to do otherwise.

On another note I am considering using your post wishing death on a military person as a signature pointing out that they booted Randall yet let you stay.

Obviously you didnt get my point.

[paulo537]

Originally Posted by jms62

Bash the Military? Because I said that they shouldnt get retirement benefits starting at 40? Everyone hates you here and it bothers the sh*t out of you... Why else would you go to such great lengths to tell everyone that you don't care.

On another note.... You wished death on a military man and I wished that their pensions start later... Who is the bigger scumbag? Now I'm sure you will answer by completely changing the subject like you always do since you do not have the mental acuity to do otherwise.

On another note I am considering using your post wishing death on a military person as a signature pointing out that they booted Randall yet let you stay.

I don't hate the guy.

It's an internet horse forum.

Where everyone's a winner.

[Nascar1966]

Ok folks I worded it wrong about the body bag thing. This is how it should of been worded:

How would you feel if you knew someone in the military that came home in the body.

If you dont want believe me to each is thier own.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your mouth is foul. Looking at the past page after page after page of your individual posts under your name, it seems your whole purpose in life is posting hate talk and cursing. You don't do anything else.

And you dont do the same thing here?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Ok folks I worded it wrong about the body bag thing. This is how it should of been worded:

How would you feel if you knew someone in the military that came home in the body.

If you dont want believe me to each is thier own.

BULLS_H_I_T!! You worded it the way you meant it douchebag. Be a MAN and Apologize dont try and snake your way out of it because there is NO ONE on this board with an IQ low enough to fall for what you are saying even in their most drunken stupor.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

BULLS_H_I_T!! You worded it the way you meant it douchebag. Be a MAN and Apologize dont try and snake your way out of it because there is NO ONE on this board with an IQ low enough to fall for what you are saying even in their most drunken stupor.

Go **** Yourself Trash. I hope you swing on a vine in your yard and fall off and live ther rest of your pathetic life in a whell chair as an invalid. THIS I MEAN YOU LUMP OF ****.

You really have a high IQ. Why did you want to put Riot against me in an IQ test and not you? Maybe because you know it won't take much to beat a person who cleans toilets for a living? The chemicals you use are really getting to you. You should take a break from the toilets.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Go **** Yourself Trash. I hope you swing on a vine in your yard and fall off and live ther rest of your pathetic life in a whell chair as an invalid. THIS I MEAN YOU LUMP OF ****.

You really have a high IQ. Why did you want to put Riot against me in an IQ test and not you? Maybe because you know it won't take much to beat a person who cleans toilets for a living? The chemicals you use are really getting to you. You should take a break from the toilets.

Just when I think you can't go lower, you do.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Just when I think you can't go lower, you do.

I guess you can say the feeling is mutual about how we feel about each other. Enjoy the rest of your day at this website.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

At least I don't accuse someone of spouse abuse without proof.

Nascar said to Riot:
"You should be happy I havent called you what Dell called you YET" [c.u.n.t]

Riot said to Nascar:
"You're kind of a textbook case of the domineering misogynistic jackass, who sometimes degenerates into wife-beating."

I didn't accuse you of spouse abuse, you idiot. I called you a threatening, misogynistic jackass. My happiness does not depend upon your self-important largess in not verbally abusing me and carrying out a threat against me. You do not tell me to be happy you haven't cursed me out "yet". Go away, little man.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nascar said to Riot:
"You should be happy I havent called you what Dell called you YET" [c.u.n.t]
.

FYI

if someone can prove I ever put the c word here, not quoting from another post $1,000.00. Never called RIOT or anyone else that ever! My mother would go pakistani on my a$$ if I ever did. I did call out RIOT looking like a little squat man though (I think or close to it)

Big hint of why I feel the way I do towards these piece of shiat abusers I can't help but not focus on.