Occupy Wall Street

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

They've always been law-abiding and peaceful in NY for the month so far. Even in the face of police brutality. Why would you think they would not be? .

Because I'm not as naive as you? Protest all they want during the day, it's their right to protest in lieu of working a job but camping in parks, especially privately owned ones at night is illegal and should have been enfoced from day one.

Police say the protestors were throwing bottles and bags of garbage at officers, Sandberg reported. Police say they were trying to control the situation when it got out of hand.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/...n-wall-street/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

They were law abiding and peaceful in Boston, where the police attacked and beat the Veterans for Peace, while destroying their flags - nobody raised a finger against the police as they were hauled to jail.

They've always been law-abiding and peaceful in NY for the month so far. Even in the face of police brutality. Why would you think they would not be?

The plan is complete peaceful resistance at this stage. Timing is good, it can be televised live on the morning shows. Bloomberg will suffer, OWS is too popular with the public.

Lec Walesa is going to join them, but nobody knows for sure what time he'll get to New York.

peaceful in boston, but maybe not completely law abiding?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bIcL_blog.html

they were told repeatedly to leave one portion of the area that they had encamped on, and were arrested for trespassing. there's mention of 150k in shrubs being damaged as well.

[somerfrost]

New York confrontation avoided, at least for now, as park cleaning postponed. Somebody showed common sense, this could have been nasty.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

They were law abiding and peaceful in Boston, where the police attacked and beat the Veterans for Peace, while destroying their flags - nobody raised a finger against the police as they were hauled to jail.

They've always been law-abiding and peaceful in NY for the month so far. Even in the face of police brutality. Why would you think they would not be?

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This is comedy

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

If you look at with internet blogs and discussions from the OWS crowd, you'd know they talk about that all the time, as they want it re-instated. It's a major contributor to the current financial disaster OWS is all about.

You don't ever bother to click on a link, or read anything different? No curiosity about this at all?

They say this alot: "First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win" - Ghandi

I guess you guys are at ridicule stage. There is fear it will get ugly in NY tomorrow morning, however, and move into the fight state, as they are going to try and pull the demonstraters out of the park. Let's hope the police don't lose it and become as violent as the Boston PD did the other night.

Knows about Glass-Steagall:


Nurses know about Glass-Steagall:


Definitely knows about Glass-Steagall:

Showing a guy holding a sign is proof that 40% of the people there are knowledgable about Glass -Steagle. 40% of the people there dont have any clue why they are there they just know it is the in thing to do.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Because I'm not as naive as you? Protest all they want during the day, it's their right to protest in lieu of working a job but camping in parks, especially privately owned ones at night is illegal and should have been enfoced from day one.



http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/10/...n-wall-street/

You really don't even bother to read past the headlines of what you reference, do you?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

peaceful in boston, but maybe not completely law abiding?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...bIcL_blog.html

they were told repeatedly to leave one portion of the area that they had encamped on, and were arrested for trespassing. there's mention of 150k in shrubs being damaged as well.

Yet, amazingly, that "shrub damage" didn't really exist in the light of day.

Yes, they were arrested for trespassing in a public park (the second park they occupied) as an act of civil disobedience. A minor offense. If you watch the multiple videos available, the demonstrators were completely peaceful, as the Boston Police aggressively attacked the Veterans for Peace with batons and beating.

There will always be a few outliers of crazy trouble makers, but it is undeniable that these protests, with their thousands of protesters, have been overwhelmingly peaceful and non-violent, the protesters themselves are not tolerating any violence, they are calling for peace, and always have been. The outliers are not supported by the protesters, and now the protesters are having the problem of trouble makers infiltrating them.

Face it: Faux News and Hannity have been overtly lying about the "sex, drugs, lewdness" crap in New York, for example: that park has been filled with police for the month it's been occupied, there are live video feeds from it 24-7 available on the internet, there are thousands of cell phone video cameras there, and if that existed that means the police who are in the park daily, walking through it, are ignoring it.

The problem with the media, who have been ignoring this, and the pundits, who have been yapping senselessly about something they are clueless about, is that social media and live cameras have taken over their job. The protesters are putting the news out there themselves, as in the middle east. That's pretty cool! It exposes the huge defects we have in our pathetic, non-journalist, lazy and even lying media.

[Cannon Shell]

In Philadelphia the protests are much smaller than other places and yet it is still costing taxpayers 80k+ a day in police overtime and sanatation costs.

Oh gawd maybe 100 million in cost for cities worldwide to handle protesters f.ucked off about arguably 50 trillion being robbed from the masses.

Priorities...we still don't have 'em.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Showing a guy holding a sign is proof that 40% of the people there are knowledgable about Glass -Steagle. 40% of the people there dont have any clue why they are there they just know it is the in thing to do.

Showing that the protesters discuss and hold up signs about Glass-Stegall is alot more proof that they are aware of it, than you saying that less than 5% of protesters don't know anything about it just because you say so

If you would bother to watch some of the videos about these guys, it's clear that they know what they are talking about reference what has destroyed our economy.

And you merely saying, "No, they don't!" , isn't any accurate commentary about "what they know" at all

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In Philadelphia the protests are much smaller than other places and yet it is still costing taxpayers 80k+ a day in police overtime and sanatation costs.

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

[Antitrust32]

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with these protests.

It's a right granted by our most sacred document and it's not like the government and wall street haven't been bending over the American people the past many years.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Oh gawd maybe 100 million in cost for cities worldwide to handle protesters f.ucked off about arguably 50 trillion being robbed from the masses.

Priorities...we still don't have 'em.

"Pay for your own damn bailouts - tax all financial transactions"

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with these protests.

It's a right granted by our most sacred document and it's not like the government and wall street haven't been bending over the American people the past many years.

Saturday is an international day for Occupy Wall Street (it's catching on in Europe, too) - you gonna go locally?

There have been a few people in downtown Lexington - not exactly a big deal here

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Saturday is an international day for Occupy Wall Street (it's catching on in Europe, too) - you gonna go locally?

There have been a few people in downtown Lexington - not exactly a big deal here

i dont know whats going on in this neck of the woods regarding the OWS.

But saturday is 18 holes of Golf, some dressage crap, and football day for me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

New York confrontation avoided, at least for now, as park cleaning postponed. Somebody showed common sense, this could have been nasty.

The demonstrators scrubbed the park themselves, Russell Simmons sent a letter to Bloomberg saying he would personally pay for the costs of cleaning the park and was there with them this am, a few other celebrities showed up this am to link arms, Lec Walesa is joining them in the park ...

... damn, this thing called "freedom" that our citizens have just won't go way. How inconvenient for some

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is comedy

Really? You might try actually watching one of the multiple videos of the Boston Police readily available on the internet, going into a line of 30 to 70 year old Veterans for Peace standing still and holding flags, swinging their clubs, and throwing them to the ground, as they were standing there completely accepting and passive of their arrests. Or the mulitple videos of the kettling and abuse in NY on the Brooklyn Bridge, which has already resulted in some very expensive lawsuits being filed against the City, both for personal attacks and civil rights violations for entrapment.

You think that's "comedy". Guess that says more about you than those veterans and the NY protesters.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, it's "the taxpayers" that are protesting, as is their civil right under the Constitution and laws of this land, so how is that a problem?

Wrong, the "taxpayers" are at work. Not sitting in a park complaining.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

But saturday is 18 holes of Golf, some dressage crap, and football day for me.

Geesh, you gonna relax at all? Sounds fun - what's the "dressage crap"?

I've got one horse call early, then I'll cruise back through Lexington to talk to the protesters & grab lunch, then back out to Keeneland for the afternoon.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Wrong, the "taxpayers" are at work. Not sitting in a park complaining.

Funny. Alot of the protesters being interviewed have jobs, but have taken time off to attend the protests.

I guess making uneducated blanket assumptions about them is easier than paying attention.

Yes, still in the, " ... then they ridicule you ... " stage.

Funny: I posted three pictures and several videos:

one showing a person holding a check, protesting and marching with hundreds of others regarding the ending this year of one specific NY city tax giveaway that only benefits millionaires on up, but will cut city income by billions and put the onus on others to make up that tax amount

one showing nurses (employed people) demanding specific transaction taxes on two types of financial transactions on Wall Street ("pay for your own bailouts")

one showing a young person wanting repealed laws that protected us from financial malfeasance, such as Glass-Steagall, to be reinstated

Multiple videos showing protesters having good grasp of the economic specifics that have destroyed our economy, and what needs to change to save it.

Yet they are still being classified by some as unemployed neer-do-wells. Dirty effing hippy types. Wow. That's really sad, that some in this country are trying to ridicule the very people that are fighting for things in this country that will better their lives.