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12-12-2011, 04:11 PM
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The asking price from the Clippers was just too much. They were willing to give up Kaman, Aminu, and Gordon, along with maybe Bledsoe or that draft pick but not all of that.
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12-12-2011, 07:39 PM
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You dont get fair market value because everybody knows you have no leverage but look at what Utah got for Williams. Getting something is better than getting nothing.
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12-12-2011, 07:55 PM
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First of all I have a hard time understanding why if Stern were so hyper focused on keeping the Hornets attractive to a new owner (which is the basic premise) did he not simply tell Demps the parameters of a deal he would approve of? How can you say that The Hornets management was working without influence of the NBA when you are going to disapprove of a trade it come up with? You cant have it both ways. The 2nd thing I dont agree with is that a new owner needs a star player or is concerned with immediate salary cap implications. Some guy just paid $700 million for the Houston Astros who have no stars or much in the way of prospects. The owners are buying the uniforms, not the guys in them. Chris Paul may blow out his knee tomorrow, no one is spending $300 million on a basketball team because of Chris Paul. The 3rd thing in talking about the immediate salary cap implications the author acts as though none of the pieces acquired couldnt have been flipped to other small market teams currently trying to get above the salary floor. I mean if we are willing to let NO punt the season (which is what they are doing by keeping Paul-who exactly are they going to sign to fill out the roster/how much money are they going to be allowed to spend?) AND let Paul walk and get nothing for him....then why couldnt Scola or Martin or Odom (as shown by his trade to Dallas for what Stern supposedly wants draft picks) be traded by NO? I could go on but this post has already flew by the tedious mendoza line...
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12-12-2011, 08:05 PM
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Last 5 years #3 picks 2011-Enes Kanter 2010-Derrick Favors 2009-James Harden 2008-OJ Mayo 2007-Al Horford 2006-Adam Morrison I dont believe that LA would trade Gordon
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12-12-2011, 09:38 PM
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Um Gordon and the pick. Especially if its Barnes. I read the trade did not go through because they would not give Bledsoe and Gordon. I also said potential, Gordon is a potential superstar. I think he averaged 23 a game last year.
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12-12-2011, 11:56 PM
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We disagree on how easy it would be to "flip" those older guys. It just isn't going to happen as much as it used to happen. As for the Odom trade, they didn't get draft picks, they got a trade exception that I'm sure they'll use trying to get Howard.
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12-13-2011, 07:12 AM
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As I said there the team wasnt necessarily finished moving pieces. Expiring contracts are still valuable AND with the salary floor teams will actually need to add players like Scola and Martin if nothing else to get over the floor until they are in their final year when they can use them as expiring contract trade bait. The Lakers got Dallas 1st round pick this year. You have to trade a draft pick to get the exception. And CJ, you fill seats by winning and neither scenario is going to have the Hornets winning in the near term regardless. NO's success last year not withstanding how exactly are they supposed to add pieces if Mark Cuban and company are going to go apeshit everytime they add anybody? And with the season opening in 12 days when are they planning on filling out the roster? http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_...rleans-hornets
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I really love to watch Paul play and think he is a great addition to just about any team but the NBA is being unrealistic here.
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12-13-2011, 06:52 PM
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They got Billups and Dwight wanted him in Orlando. Maybe its on to plan b? If you can call Howard plan B. The league should have took this trade and ran. The pick could be a stud, its a deep deep draft.
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I would love to know what Monty Williams is thinking right now considering the season starts in 12 days and he has 5 NBA calibur players on the rostr. Not 5 NBA starting level players or 5 good players but 5 guys who are better than developmental league players.
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