My theory and feelings on Polytrack - Page 7

#**121** 10-18-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Are you comparing the New Coke to Polytrack? God bless it man. Find something new. You are chasing your tail. You just constantly reinforce my assertation that you change arguements.

What about your article with sources on the greater % of injuries on Polytrack? That was much more in line with the original post than all your crazy offshoots. Dont always fall back on that crap I know more about the industry. This was not what was originally argued. quit changing paths. Its boring. I have never argued about your overall knowlege of the industry. Never. Thats why I read this board.

I should make a thread

Which is better? New Coke or Poly?

#**122** 10-18-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

I think the whole argument is some people see this as a tragedy and others see it as an opportunity for the industry to grow. Those are two factors that are arguable, but no fact will be known for years to come.

Ok, thats cool, and you too Titan Sooner.
But Titan my point was that you can't always see the future.
And Pgard, in no way would I compare polytrack to new coke. New Coke was of dire concern.

#**123** 10-18-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

I should make a thread

Which is better? New Coke or Poly?

Damn thats a hard one, truly.
I'd have to say new coke, because they saw they screwed up and we enjoyed old coke that much more when it returned.
I hope to say the same thing about dirt racing at all tracks some day.

TitanSooner · #**124** 10-18-2006, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Ok, thats cool, and you too Titan Sooner.
But Titan my point was that you can't always see the future.
And Pgard, in no way would I compare polytrack to new coke. New Coke was of dire concern.

cool.

Panther Piss! I love it.

#**125** 10-18-2006, 06:48 PM

Ok.

Sort of a bottom line. If this Polytrack stuff starts to spread it is going to cause change. My line of work changes every year as the legislature changes demands. I am not in your line of work, but if I was, I would get to know everything possible about the stuff and get ready to roll if changes come. Just my personal way of doing things if I want to stay in something I really like.

If my job changes enough where I dont want to go to work. I will quit and find something else. I dont have as much at stake as you guys with this stuff. So I would just soak everything in. Not good, not bad, what it is. The truth. Just my way. I understand the frustration. Because it is a big change.

#**126** 10-18-2006, 06:48 PM

A STRONG trend I have seen in the many people I ask opinions of about the Polytrack on a daily basis is that 90% of the people who do NOT like it have what I consider as an ery advanced level of knwoledge when it come to horse racing, and of the people who are advoctaes of Polytrack, about 90% of them have a very elementary knowledge of horse racing and only understand short term, on-the-surface issues...

That is a fast from a general observation I've made, and thats NOT A GOOD THING AT ALL.....that's like having a bunch of naive 18yos having a najority vote on who the next President will be (which is what MTV and P Diddy attempted to do when they had their hidden agenda on trying to get a democrat in office a few years ago with their VOTE OR DIE campaign IMO)...

If you don't understand the game you shouldn't have a lot of weight in the conversation of Polytrack....just my opinion..

pba1817 · #**127** 10-18-2006, 06:48 PM

I think anyone who argues on internet message boards is a moron, so I suppose that makes us all Morons!!

#**128** 10-18-2006, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817

but no fact will be known for years to come.

THEN WHY INSTALL THIS CRAP IF THE JURY IS OUT?

TitanSooner · #**129** 10-18-2006, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

A STRONG trend I have seen in the many people I ask opinions of about the Polytrack on a daily basis is that 90% of the people who do NOT like it have what I consider as an ery advanced level of knwoledge when it come to horse racing, and of the people who are advoctaes of Polytrack, about 90% of them have a very elementary knowledge of horse racing and only understand short term, on-the-surface issues...

hat is a fast from a general observation I've made, and thats NOT A GOOD THING AT ALL.....that's like having a bunch of naive 18yos having a najority vote on who the next President will be (which is what MTV and P Diddy attempted to do when they had their hidden agenda on trying to get a democrat in office a few years ago with their VOTE OR DIE campaign IMO)...

If you don't understand the game you shouldn't have a lot of weight in the conversation of Polytrack....just my opinion..

Then why don't we just all shut up and you can debate yourself oh great one.

pba1817 · #**130** 10-18-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

THEN WHY INSTALL THIS CRAP IF THE JURY IS OUT?

Well, you have to have a large and fair sample before you can have any factual data to decipher.

They used it on training tracks over the last few years, obviously with good results or it would have never made it to the main tracks.

#**131** 10-18-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner

Then why don't we just all shut up and you can debate yourself oh great one.

Or, how about I just debate with the 10% of people in this industry QUALIFIED to argue on bealf of polytrack because they have an intimate knowledge of this industry.....none of you have shown me that you fit in that category....so yes, I'm probably better argueing with myslef about it until a formidable debater comes about...

#**132** 10-18-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Or, how about I just debate with the 10% of people in this industry QUALIFIED to argue on bealf of polytrack because they have an intimate knowledge of this industry.....none of you have shown me that you fit in that category....so yes, I'm probably better argueing with myslef about it until a formidable debater comes about...

Excuse me????

TitanSooner · #**133** 10-18-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Or, how about I just debate with the 10% of people in this industry QUALIFIED to argue on bealf of polytrack because they have an intimate knowledge of this industry.....none of you have shown me that you fit in that category....so yes, I'm probably better argueing with myslef about it until a formidable debater comes about...

Good.. I'm all ears.

#**134** 10-18-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

THEN WHY INSTALL THIS CRAP IF THE JURY IS OUT?

Apparently part of the jury lies in Europe. I personally would try and get a hold of some of the people in Europe who are knowlegeable and train on it. Polytrack may be a passing fancy here. But if it is not, I would try and be ready. If its really that important, which it would be to me if I was in the position to have to deal with it.

TitanSooner · #**135** 10-18-2006, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Excuse me????

I think that was a shot directly at you Oracle.. I wouldn't take it.

Danzig · #**136** 10-18-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Or, how about I just debate with the 10% of people in this industry QUALIFIED to argue on bealf of polytrack because they have an intimate knowledge of this industry.....none of you have shown me that you fit in that category....so yes, I'm probably better argueing with myslef about it until a formidable debater comes about...

...and modest too.

#**137** 10-18-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Apparently part of the jury lies in Europe. I personally would try and get a hold of some of the people in Europe who are knowlegeable and train on it. Polytrack may be a passing fancy here. But if it is not, I would try and be ready. If its really that important, which it would be to me if I was in the position to have to deal with it.

Pgard, they TRAIN on it. yeah they run some minor races on it in the winter, but training is its primary function.
You can talk to a lotta trainers who will tell you that their horses train fine on grass(how many times have we read that before a stakes horse makes his grass debut?), but they don't run on it worth a damn.
I'm hearing the same thing as Joel, trainers say they train ok on it, but don't race worth a damn on it.

#**138** 10-18-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Excuse me????

I sais of the Polyrack ADVOCATES.... thought you were one of the good guys?

#**139** 10-18-2006, 06:59 PM

From a degenerate gambler's perspective this polycrap sucks. I had to dig in not one, but two trash cans today for tickets.

#**140** 10-18-2006, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Or, how about I just debate with the 10% of people in this industry QUALIFIED to argue on bealf of polytrack because they have an intimate knowledge of this industry.....none of you have shown me that you fit in that category....so yes, I'm probably better argueing with myslef about it until a formidable debater comes about...

Then clean up that first post. Because if you do know something about the industry, that was a very sloppy attempt at debating Polytrack. Incredibly sloppy.

I met a guy that knew his Physics backwards and forwards, but when he explained to me that the government had tried to place a chip in his head, and the US currency was produced by Arab nations, his opinions on everything carried quite a bit less weight.