This man is a nuts - Page 6

dalakhani · #**101** 12-21-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

We must not be talking about the same Richard Clarke.

http://www.brookesnews.com/042903ecclewilkinson.html

Again, Rup, how is that link any more viable than commondreams?

Rupert Pupkin · #**102** 12-21-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Again, Rup, how is that link any more viable than commondreams?

It's not all that much different than commondreams but I think that many of their criticisms of Clarke are legitimate. They guy did lie. He totally changed his story. He totally changed his story and he was trying to sell a book. That certainly hurts his credibility.

By the way, with commondreams.com I've never said that everything they say is a flat out lie. Sure there are some lies but most of the things they say are half-truths and one-sided arguments. When you only hear half-truths and one-sided arguments, you are only getting half the story.

So with Richard Clarke, I'm not saying that the story I linked is the only truth or the whole story, but it is a point of view that some people have of Clarke. My point was that you may think Clarke is great but there are plenty of other people that think Clarke is a liar who has no credibilty at all. There are two sides to most things.

#**103** 12-21-2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...eut/index.html

I am going back to the original topic.
I think the debate on Iran and what do with the man in charge is... let him hang himself. Now can we somehow accelerate the process without getting involved directly...?
This Middle East thing has taken a very interesting turn. Iraq, Sunni v. Shiite, has changed the dynamics. We now have a number of Arab nations scared to death that the Persian Shiites will gain too much of a foothold. And the split is even showing up in Gaza... foreign affairs is a very complex business. We may have inadvertantly started bringing the Islamic house down on itself. The rifts are growing in other countries. Arab countries taking sides... very interesting.

dalakhani · #**104** 12-21-2006, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's not all that much different than commondreams but I think that many of their criticisms of Clarke are legitimate. They guy did lie. He totally changed his story. He totally changed his story and he was trying to sell a book. That certainly hurts his credibility.

By the way, with commondreams.com I've never said that everything they say is a flat out lie. Sure there are some lies but most of the things they say are half-truths and one-sided arguments. When you only hear half-truths and one-sided arguments, you are only getting half the story.

So with Richard Clarke, I'm not saying that the story I linked is the only truth or the whole story, but it is a point of view that some people have of Clarke. My point was that you may think Clarke is great but there are plenty of other people that think Clarke is a liar who has no credibilty at all. There are two sides to most things.

The credibility of clarke comes from having served under Reagan, HW Bush and Clinton. Those guys seemed to think he had credibility. For some reason, it didnt pan out with this guy when it worked with those guys. I wonder why.

timmgirvan · #**105** 12-26-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by merasmag

reading these links, it is beneath me, totally...to say the washington post is mainstream is the funniest thing i read all day and i've been reading this site for almost 2 hours today...and i can't get into the commondreams stuff either, while closer to my politics, too poorly written and slanted to mean anything to anyone

Wow....I didn't think anything was beneath a liberal! No,wait...that didn't come out quite right!

Downthestretch55 · #**106** 12-26-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Wow....I didn't think anything was beneath a liberal! No,wait...that didn't come out quite right!

Timm,
Let's not go there..just when we were starting to "get along".
What's this about "coming out"?

timmgirvan · #**107** 12-26-2006, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Timm,
Let's not go there..just when we were starting to "get along".
What's this about "coming out"?

Sheesssh!...talk about parsing!! It was an innocent slip of the tongue...I was just stating what Mera said,honest!

Downthestretch55 · #**108** 12-26-2006, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Sheesssh!...talk about parsing!! It was an innocent slip of the tongue...I was just stating what Mera said,honest!

LOL!
What team is Parsing playing for?

31lengths · #**109** 12-26-2006, 11:14 PM

"foreign affairs is a very complex business. We may have inadvertantly started bringing the Islamic house down on itself. The rifts are growing in other countries. Arab countries taking sides... very interesting."

Nail...meet head.

I usually keep quiet about these things...but you are right...we may not have been the catylist but merely more fuel to an on going fire.
People compare the Iraq war to Vietnam. Wrong. This is a new level. Perpetual and only the begining. It's a new way of life.

Rupert Pupkin · #**110** 12-26-2006, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by merasmag

reading these links, it is beneath me, totally...to say the washington post is mainstream is the funniest thing i read all day and i've been reading this site for almost 2 hours today...and i can't get into the commondreams stuff either, while closer to my politics, too poorly written and slanted to mean anything to anyone

The Washington Post has always been a liberal newspaper. It is certainly left of center, but it is mainstream compared to many of the sites that we link to on this board.