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Old 12-21-2006, 10:25 AM
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Who was the last horse to win the Manhattan Handicap, Man o'War and Turf Classic all in the same year?
Diplomatic Jet? Didn't he do that?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:27 AM
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I think it was Jet, it was a VERY bad year of American grass horses that year and I'm not sure if he even won the Eclipse award.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:31 AM
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I think it was Jet, it was a VERY bad year of American grass horses that year and I'm not sure if he even won the Eclipse award.
Obviously Kotashan won that Eclipse award...but Diplomatic Jet did win all three races.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:32 AM
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You are right Oracle, that was good. 1996 was the year.
Sick pup you are for knowing that.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:33 AM
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Was it Paradise Creek?

Good guess, but Paradise Creek was done after 94...
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:34 AM
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Obviously Kotashan won that Eclipse award...but Diplomatic Jet did win all three races.
I couldn't remember who it was who beat him, are you sure Kotashan was that year?
I hated Jet, I always played against him and he always made those loose leads in slow paces.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:34 AM
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Diplomatic Jet? Didn't he do that?
Yup, very good...

Who rode him in all of those wins?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:35 AM
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You are right Oracle, that was good. 1996 was the year.
Sick pup you are for knowing that.
You always remember the horses you couldn't ever catch and disliked.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:35 AM
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I couldn't remember who it was who beat him, are you sure Kotashan was that year?
I hated Jet, I always played against him and he always made those loose leads in slow paces.

I'm wrong...I was thinking 1993.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:35 AM
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Yup, very good...

Who rode him in all of those wins?
Chavez. He always got away with murder on the lead and I always swore and ripped up tickets. Picou trained him.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:36 AM
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I'm wrong...I was thinking 1993.
But he did lose the award didn't he?
I can't recall who but I seem to remember him running in some late year race at Calder maybe the McKnight? trying to win the eclipse award.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:37 AM
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I think it was Jet, it was a VERY bad year of American grass horses that year and I'm not sure if he even won the Eclipse award.

It wasnt THAT bad...

In those races he beat horses like Flag Down, Mecke, Awad, Marlin, Raintrap, Dernier Empereur.

If it wasnt for a bad ride in the Caesar's Inernational that year he would have won that too...
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:39 AM
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It wasnt THAT bad...

In those races he beat horses like Flag Down, Mecke, Awad, Marlin, Raintrap, Dernier Empereur.

If it wasnt for a bad ride in the Caesar's Inernational that year he would have won that too...
LOL!!! I disagree!! yeah thats it, that was teh year. I thought those horses were brutal. I think I tried Marlin to beat him a couple of times and he never could. WHo won the Caesars that year?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:39 AM
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Bad ride? Well....Chavez rode him.

Singspeil won that year...even though he lost the BC turf to Pilsudski.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:41 AM
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I miss those horses. A lot better than what we have seen here on turf recently.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:41 AM
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Bad ride? Well....Chavez rode him.

Singspeil won that year...even though he lost the BC turf to Pilsudski.
singspiel won an eclipse? man, I never would got that question right. If he didnt win the BC, and he didnt win the races we named, what the hell did he win to get the award?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:42 AM
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I miss those horses. A lot better than what we have seen here on turf recently.

No argument from me. They were certainly no worse than English Channel and Cacique.

I miss good horses like Star of Cozzene.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:43 AM
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singspiel won an eclipse? man, I never would got that question right. If he didnt win the BC, and he didnt win the races we named, what the hell did he win to get the award?
The Canadian International.

He was lengths better than Diplomatic Jet but his US accomplishments were minimal.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:43 AM
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LOL!!! I disagree!! yeah thats it, that was teh year. I thought those horses were brutal. I think I tried Marlin to beat him a couple of times and he never could. WHo won the Caesars that year?
Sandpit...

You really think Awad and Mecke were brutal?
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:44 AM
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The Canadian International.

He was lengths better than Diplomatic Jet but his US accomplishments were minimal.
wow, that woulda made a good trivia question, who won the 1996 eclipse award. I could never have gotten that one in a million years.
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