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clyde · #**1381** 08-20-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I post on the forum over there sometimes, but I got a lot of backlash presenting stats stating we pretty much traded for a comp of Fausto Carmona and Carlos Carrasco this year and there was plenty of stats that you could argue that Obaldo was not even as good as them. They did not like me much at all for doing that especially when I stated all they did was attack Exhausto and Carrasco all year, rightly so in some cases yet this guy comes who is the same and you same people talk about a savior of the city. I felt pride though when after the game Tuesday and they were bemoaning the Exhausto/Buehrle matchup I flat out said in a post "Fausto is better than Jimenez" You should have seen the reaction that got!!

Boy do I know that drill.

That's why I quit those places;implacable homers..to the point I have to think Shapiro has either a HUGE family or a small one with lots of time on their hands.

Boy, it's about 90 here and manual mowing is not easy.However I am mowing nude again and my woody got 67 thumbs up.I've been thinking of Brown Sugah catching and giving signs between her legs.

horseofcourse · #**1382** 08-20-2011, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

Boy do I know that drill.

That's why I quit those places;implacable homers..to the point I have to think Shapiro has either a HUGE family or a small one with lots of time on their hands.

Boy, it's about 90 here and manual mowing is not easy.However I am mowing nude again and my woody got 67 thumbs up.I've been thinking of Brown Sugah catching and giving signs between her legs.

I understand the sentiment and I understand making a trade when you're in contention but the complete ignoral of what they traded for is stunning. It's, well ignore his Coors field stats?? Who ignored them in 2010 when he pitched great there? It's, well he pitched well the month before the trade and ignore his first two months and his last 4 or 5 starts. We can't ignore what Fausto did for a month in mid May to mid June, no one ignores that nor should they. He was horrendous. No one ignores Carrasco stunk in July after a brilliant month and a half earlier nor should they. Yet every single fan and sport writer wants to ignore the obvious facts of a bad year by Jimenez this year. It make no sense. The only consistently good starting pitchers have been Masterson and Tomlin. Tomlin's got his gopher ball issues and he really can't go very deep...he'll get you 6 or 7 like clockwork, but by that 4th time through the order it's rough for him.

Fausto is the whipping boy for fans and media which is both fair and unfair. A great start from him like Wednesday was treated as an abnormality and outrageous. But the truth is and I have shown many people it is actually more normal for Fausto to have a start like that than Ubaldo THIS year. Jimenez has been every bit as wildly sporadic as Fausto this year. Fausto has actually had two up periods this year, the first month and a half and the last couple months. Ubaldo has only had one. I really dissected all of Jimenez' starts this year to try to make sense of the trade and it's not really a pretty picture how he has pitched this year. We've been playing baseball for close to 5 months now and Ubaldo has had one good stretch for a month and a half. That's it...it stretched into the latter portions of July so I guess that's why they figured out it was solved by him on the Tribe side, but since that stretch it's been disastrous for him again.

No way the Rockies try to trade a guy this supposedly good unless something's wrong. I'm pretty certain the Tigers found something in his delivery that he's tipping something as Verlander pitched Tuesday and they aren't starting him Sunday...why not?? Makes no sense to me unless they found something with Jimenez as they didn't hit him much last time.

I really want the guy to do well, but the obvious facts of the situation are not pretty and make not a whole lot of sense. For me, it's simply Carrasco is on the DL and we got a guy to replace him who pitches pretty much exactly like him, and saying stuff like that on that clevelandfan board just doesn't cut it!!

clyde · #**1383** 08-20-2011, 05:12 PM

Done.

Know what you mean.You cannot use common sense logic with these rhinos.They try to make anything fit to their desire.I forgot....someone gave me a link to a new sporty board, so I tried it.Went to the Indians section and used the same points you and I do about Jimenot.I specifically used yours , saying how his coming here just got a much better pitcher, RIGHT NOW, sent down to the minors.I called Jimenot a sixth starter on this team and said Huff was much better based on the two's starts for the Tribe this season.

I got called all sorts of names..you would have thought I was FailyahFailyah.Then some fool shows the CAREER record of Huff and Jimenot.

Do you know Jimenot is getting 14 MILLION this year!!!!

barf!

And a very salient point about Sunday...I did not think about what you uncovered and you're probably very right.The Tribe better win today while the winning's good.

clyde · #**1384** 08-20-2011, 07:33 PM

I made a boo boo, but this is even worse.Jimenot gets 2.8 mill.

The guy who hates domes gets 14 million!!

thud!

clyde · #**1385** 08-20-2011, 07:33 PM

And fucl< Muff!

blech!!

clyde · #**1386** 08-20-2011, 07:52 PM

Oh mine GOT!

Enough of Muff!!

horseofcourse · #**1387** 08-21-2011, 01:11 PM

Huff proved, he too can pitch like Obaldo last night! Well, I hope the coin flip if Obaldo pitches well comes up on the good side today! It just might!

horseofcourse · #**1388** 08-21-2011, 01:16 PM

Yeah, your points on Hafner are very correct...guys been absolutely brutal for quite awhile now. Cabera tailing off again, so that pretty much offsets Chew back and performaing ok for the most part. And Kipnis hurt is devastating...he was really performing well too.

clyde · #**1389** 08-21-2011, 02:05 PM

Oh my God.

We'd be better off letting Detroit hit off a tee then Jimennot.

horseofcourse · #**1390** 08-21-2011, 02:13 PM

To throw Porcello against him again, they found something. Nothing to see here, guys a number 1!!

clyde · #**1391** 08-21-2011, 02:31 PM

Is Jimenot now pitching for Detroit,too??

horseofcourse · #**1392** 08-21-2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde

Is Jimenot now pitching for Detroit,too??

Porcello stinks, mayber their worst starter, the guy we blitzed in Cleveland which is why when Verlander was available and they chose to hold him back for Tampa, they thought they could get away with their worst against Obaldo Jimenot.

clyde · #**1393** 08-21-2011, 02:37 PM

It is jim!!

He was in a Porcello suit...now he's in a Belov suit.

Boy is he good!!

clyde · #**1394** 08-21-2011, 02:41 PM

Now he's still pitching for us again!!

dough!!

Is that Wedgie in an Acta suit!?

clyde · #**1395** 08-21-2011, 02:46 PM

Yup..it is.

clyde · #**1396** 08-21-2011, 02:47 PM

That 7.29 ....is that his ERA?

Oh my God.

It is!

clyde · #**1397** 08-21-2011, 02:49 PM

Gee Acta...isn't it about time for a Batting Tee change?

clyde · #**1398** 08-21-2011, 02:51 PM

Really, Shapiro&Son should lose their Trade License over Jimenot.NAFTA isn't this bad.

horseofcourse · #**1399** 08-21-2011, 03:21 PM

Your theory holds. Huff did in fact pitch better than Jimenez this series!!

horseofcourse · #**1400** 08-21-2011, 03:26 PM

Really clyde, in Ubaldo's next scheduled turn couldn't we just start Sipp and go Sipp 2, Smith 2, R Perez 2, Pestano 2 and C Perez 1?? don't we pretty much do that anyway in his starts??