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Old 05-22-2018, 09:36 AM
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Says the Bored Idiot....
You’ve been sitting on that dunce cap after hours I see.
That Quip is a good "hoss"
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:01 AM
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That Quip is a good "hoss"
Misquoted again. Get your facts straight Mo.
I said Quip has done nothing wrong. Didn't endorse him , say he was a good hoss, or even bet him.
Justify will win the triple crown. I believe we both cashed nice future bets on him in the derby and got paid well for knowing a superstar when we see one. That was at the beginning of March.
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:19 AM
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Misquoted again. Get your facts straight Mo.
I said Quip has done nothing wrong. Didn't endorse him , say he was a good hoss, or even bet him.
Justify will win the triple crown. I believe we both cashed nice future bets on him in the derby and got paid well for knowing a superstar when we see one. That was at the beginning of March.
Overcoming Apollo and You in the same year should garner me a Beemie and an Eclipse
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Old 05-22-2018, 10:24 AM
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Overcoming Apollo and You in the same year should garner me a Beemie and an Eclipse
Says red board Freddy Mo
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Old 05-23-2018, 01:29 PM
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6/9/18 ~ Belmont Stakes (1 1/2M) Belmont Park

Justify (Baffert)
Bravazo (Lukas)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Vino Rosso (Pletcher)
Blended Citizen (O'Neill)
Hofburg (Mott)
Gronkowski (C. Brown)
Free Drop Billy (Romans)
Restoring Hope (Baffert)

Audible (Pletcher)
Bandua (D. Weld)
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Old 05-23-2018, 05:48 PM
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Winstar should be looking for a piece of the gate at Belmont. They would probably have to pay the ransom because it’s in their best interest.
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Old 05-23-2018, 10:36 PM
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Justify (Baffert)
Bravazo (Lukas)
Tenfold (Asmussen)
Vino Rosso (Pletcher)
Blended Citizen (O'Neill)
Hofburg (Mott)
Gronkowski (C. Brown)
Free Drop Billy (Romans)
Restoring Hope (Baffert)

Audible (Pletcher)
Bandua (D. Weld)

thats a nice lineup. Can make a case for a few of them.

...and why is he running a horse against himself?
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Old 05-24-2018, 05:07 AM
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Justify (Baffert)
Restoring Hope (Baffert)

thats a nice lineup. Can make a case for a few of them.

...and why is he running a horse against himself?
He trains the horses. He doesn't own them (at least these). Owner Gary West wants to run Restoring Hope. And he's not a guy to argue with.
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Old 05-24-2018, 07:32 AM
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BRIS BELMONT PROBABLE/POSSIBLE PP'S
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Old 05-24-2018, 08:39 AM
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Hofburg feels like the massive wise guy horse.
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Old 05-24-2018, 09:49 AM
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Hofburg feels like the massive wise guy horse.
Hofburg, Bravazo, Free Drop Billy, Tenfold, Vino Russo and Audible (if he even runs) are all about the same and can see any of them right there. They all are pretty good and are very similar styles. Think Hofburg will get money on him for sure.
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:13 AM
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Hofburg feels like the massive wise guy horse.
Agreed, though I think he’s a serious racehorse.

I think Free Drop Billy sucks.
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Old 05-24-2018, 10:24 AM
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Hofburg feels like the massive wise guy horse.
How is the likely second choice a wise guy horse.

As a wise guy, well before I sold out, I resent the constant misuse of this once respected term. It used to be that if you didn't know history, you were doomed to mislearn it from Hollywood...now it's from message boards.
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Old 05-24-2018, 11:41 AM
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I think that Blended Citizen might also be a candidate for that role having already won a race at Belmont (please note that I did not use the term "wise guy" )
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How is the likely second choice a wise guy horse.

As a wise guy, well before I sold out, I resent the constant misuse of this once respected term. It used to be that if you didn't know history, you were doomed to mislearn it from Hollywood...now it's from message boards.
I get it. What would be your definition of “wise guy horse” though? Or do you think he’s the ML second choice, because I think Bravazo and Tenfold would definitely be in the mix for that?
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Hofburg feels like the massive wise guy horse.
everything I have read and already knew after Bill Mott said the Belmont was the plan for this one, he was already the wiseguy horse. If Vino Rosso goes he will be the the 1a wise guy horse
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Sure it's a step up from his perfect trip against Core Beliefs, but I'll definitely pound the trifecta heavy using Blended Citizen in the bottom two rungs of all plays.

He was HARD ridden well before the final turn and didn't seem to make any headway until the whip came out in entering the stretch. He looked like he could run ALL day.

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Old 05-24-2018, 02:40 PM
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I get it. What would be your definition of “wise guy horse” though? Or do you think he’s the ML second choice, because I think Bravazo and Tenfold would definitely be in the mix for that?

A wise guy horse would be an off the radar longshot that the average player doesn't see....and a horse that frequently outruns its odds.
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Hofburg feels like the massive wise guy horse.
Hofburg had a brutal ride in the Derby...and was still running hard at the end. There’s definitely a lot to like but if he’s going off as the 2nd choice then I don’t know. I’d probably lean toward Tenfold and Blended Citizen as better values.
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A wise guy horse would be an off the radar longshot that the average player doesn't see....and a horse that frequently outruns its odds.
I’m an idiot on the “wise guy” definition then. I always had it as the horse that’s gonna take way more money than expected because the people with real $$ are gonna bet it down. Like My Boy Jack was the “wise guy horse” in the Derby, or like Shirocco was the “wise guy horse” in the 2005 BC Turf.
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