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02-20-2007, 08:39 PM
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For what it's worth:
1. White
2. Seton Hall Univesity 3. 16 Years old my first time at Yonkers,then Freehold, Roosevelt, Belmont quickly after that. 4. Long Island-NY 5. 53...feel like 33  6. Came to the board after meeting Steve B at his Saratoga Carolina BBQ morning handicapping seminars. Many years on PaceAdvantage and PaceFigures boards. 7. Average bettor, but I bet more on the ones I own with partners when they race. A little inside info doesn't hurt!  8. Married, but live almost separate life because of our professions. And when I'm home, it's off to Saratoga or Belmont with my youngest son who loves to visit my horses at the backstretch and spend a day at the races with his dad. Get to meet a lot of great single gals at the races, especially Saratoga Travers week. Have been with the same group of single college grads who love horse racing & travel from Boston each Travers day. Bring them to paddock, backstretch for AM workouts and clubhouse for lunch. We always plan to meet the following Travers day at the same spot. 
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02-20-2007, 08:49 PM
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02-20-2007, 08:53 PM
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02-20-2007, 08:54 PM
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02-20-2007, 09:10 PM
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all the chi people should do it, dell, scavs, you, brian, playa, plus any out-of-towners. maybe this should be officialized in the meeting area. believe me, Dell will be there, it will be official.
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02-20-2007, 11:10 PM
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Count me in for an Arlington trip this summer. Canterbury invaders always do well at Arlington lol.
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02-20-2007, 11:31 PM
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8. Most of the under 40 crowd are not married. Especially the men on here. Why is the bigger question? Maybe b/c our hobby is not conducive to meeting women, which is undoubtedly true. More likely, b/c serious gamblers do not often make good mates. I think they are less likely to want commitment and are independent types in general. Plus, handicapping, if you are serious about, is a time consuming process.
I told my first wife I would, and never did, get in trouble by meeting a girl at the track. It was largely true, and I believed it. The only exception had come on a day when I was not married and I was at the Easy Goer-Sunday Silence Belmont. Near the paddock I met a girl I spent the rest of the day with. THAT was a nice day. After my divorce, I was at an OTB in Indianapolis late one Saturday afternoon. A girl showed unusual interest in my wagering and well being, and struck up a conversation with me. After I placed my bet for the next race, I asked her in a kind, good natured way, "You're a hooker, aren't you?" She wasn't. She was just a horsey girl out of her home town on a business trip. Turned out "You're a hooker, aren't you? was a heckuva good pickup line. Whodathunkit!
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02-20-2007, 11:41 PM
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You also have to watch the Praire Meadows shippers. They tend to get overlooked. If you follow the trainers you get a sense for which ones are bringing in live horses and know where to place them.
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02-21-2007, 01:48 AM
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interesting thread by what may be a sociology teacher.
Im not from the coasts, but Id have to think most racing fans are b/c the best racing takes place in NY/NJ, FL, KY(I know its not on the coast, but its in the east), and SoCal. you shouldnt expect that most posters here are patrons of Great Lakes Downs or whatever. that may be another interesting topic of conversation that should be discussed. the decline of midwest racing. or has it not declined? what happened to racing in Nebraska? why did Sportsmans fail in Chicago?
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02-21-2007, 03:38 AM
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PS Little Chicago secret is million day isn't that crowded so that is what I'd aim for. All coming PM me and I'll do my best to set you up!
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02-21-2007, 05:55 AM
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1. I'd agree that the vast majority of our membership is 'white', but that doesn't necessarily translate as 'anglo'.. 2. College educated question.. I'd agree as well as racing's fan base is overwhelmingly a well-schooled lot.. 3. Exposed early (Grandfather), interested in 20's, serious fan in 30's as disatisfaction with team sports grew, devoted to it in 40's.. 4. While I'm from the Northeast, I can say pretty definitively that DTers are spread across the country proportionately. Probably 60% from urban centers (NY-Boston, Philly-Balt-DC, Chicago, LA-SD); 40% from regional outlying areas.. 5. Logical conclusion.. Racing's portrayal as strictly for an aged fan base is a total falsehood. While the game does have an 'older' fan, it has always been a sport that grew on hobbyists as they got older. Speaks to leisure time for handicapping and development of 'opinion' with maturity.. 6. Began posting at PaceAdvantage and ESPN in winter of '02.. Derby Trail began as Yahoo Group on February 15, 2003 doubling in size annually from 50 to nearly 400 last year.. Launched as free-standing URL version last year after Preakness.. While the ESPN board provided the early base of membership, non-ESPN posting Y! DT members equalled that base as early sign-ons as well.. ATRAB listeners have been a big addition obviously, and a large number of people found DT via writing/story links to the site on Equidaily and Racing Dispatch; 50-60 added when this was the first internet site to confirm the passing of Lost in the Fog and we were linked from elsewhere, and similarly just this week almost 100 visitors via the Azeri foal photos craze.. Mentions of DT on Capital OTB-TV 12 (thanks to Seth Merrow, Jeanne Wood, Tom Amello and Nick Kling) has brought about another 50-60 members, and friends bringing friends here has filled out the numbers.. The fact that we have 1,250 members (1,100+ active within the last 30 days) in 9 months is amazing.. 7. I believe we have a perfect balance of serious horseplayers and casual fans here.. I'd agree that those here that bet, bet more often and greater amounts than most.. 8. Single, 47, never married.. Every girlfriend I've had since 1984 has enjoyed the track. Now for most of them it featured Saratoga, Preakness or Belmont Stakes visits, which provide a rather nice atmosphere (except for Old Hilltop), but even runs to blah Hippodrome Bluebonnets in Montreal for simulcast tabs was an eye-opening new experience for gal pals. The racetrack is one of the greatest date locales there is...
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02-21-2007, 06:05 AM
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1. White
2. Degree in Finance 3. 3rd Grade at River Downs with my dad 4. Cincinnati 5. 34 6. ESPN 7. Currently on betting hiatus, I tend to bet the big days, usually around $1,000 8. Married 6 Years
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02-21-2007, 09:50 AM
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Great way to find out about people.....
1. White (with blue and green freckles) 2. 6 years of college with ZERO degrees; this has to make me the dumbest person on this board alone. 3. Started going and wagering at Southland Greyhound Park in West Memphis Arkansas in high school. Wasn't of age, but never had a problem. Didn't go to a horse track until college (Blue Ribbon Downs) and didn't fall in love with it until I made it to Oaklawn about 15 years ago. 4. Lived in Arkansas all my life. OAKLAWN BABY!!!! 5. 37 years of age and plum sexy. 6. First message board. Was surfing for horse racing info on the net and stumbled across site. Too good to stay away. Lurk pretty much everyday and trying to get a little more involved. 7. $30-$50 a race and I don't really have it to blow. When I'm losing, I'm on tilt. When I'm winning, still on tilt..... 8. Married 12+ years with a 6 year old little girl. Wife is going to the track Sat. without me. Daughter will be a better capper than me by the time she's 10!
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02-21-2007, 01:07 PM
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1. yes, I am white
2. yes, I have a college degree 3. yes, the Ky derby was a big event in my house at a very young age 4. no, raised in Ohio, live in Rocky mtns now. 5. yes, am 40 years old. 6. actually yes, I almost never frequent the ESPN board, but one day when I did, the introduction to this site was there. I post 98 percent of the time at thoroughbrednet however as I can't get to this site from home...only at work and unfortunately I usually need to be working which expains my limited posting number. 7. I have never bet on the sport...other than individual miniscule side bets..never an official wager. I stink at it is why!! 8. I have been married 15 years and have 4 kids aged 3, 6, 9, and 11 which is another reason I don't bet regardless of my lack of skill!
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02-21-2007, 01:50 PM
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I am a white female; my ethnic background is Eastern European. I am an NYU graduate; my teaching career of thirty-two years ended a few years ago when I retired.! I am a refugee from the old Thoroughbred Times forum. It was a thrill everyday, but I like the calmness here. I remember Native Dancer's Derby, but the love of my life in the 1950's was Nashua. I never placed a bet until I met my husband(of thirty two years)...a degenerate gambler! We are from the East Coast...NJ to be exact, so we have gotten to see many outstanding horses in person. Among them are Seattle Slew(our favorite), Affirmed, Alydar, Spectacular Bid, Davona Dale, John Henry, Slew O" Gold, Swale, A.P. Indy Serena's Song, Bernardini, etc.. We are both dedicated animal lovers. We breed dogs and my husband is a dog trainer. Our beloved horse Ocho died in 2005 from the infirmities of old age. He was a twenty-nine-year old Appaloosa. We really miss him. We live rural...in the boondocks, so he lived right on our property. We donate to helping horses, but we are not going to adopt again. We are just too old.
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02-21-2007, 02:05 PM
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a arlington get together would be nice. if my trainers stabled here which he probaly will be i can take every1 back the barn after the races and we can have a BBQ. we had a few last year but the best one was the day of the fireworks at arlington becuz yours truly was extremely intoxicated
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02-21-2007, 02:09 PM
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sportsmans failed becuz the onwership got way too greedy. it was thriving and they decided to go and rebuild it into a dual purpose facility with the auto track which was not bright considering the other autotrack in suburban joliet which is bout 45 min from chicago. still a sad sight to see sportsmans every single day. graffiti on the inside where the track used to be, busted windows everywhere etc etc etc=( its demise not only hurt the tbred side but also the harness tremendously. i believe chicago was once near the tops in harness but no longer. sportsmans was packed every spring for the tbreds and every summer night for the harness. the decline of midwest racing? i heard the rundown today on the speaker on the backside after entries were taken today for opening day........absolutely pitiful
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02-21-2007, 04:56 PM
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tell you what one benefit of being older is you have a change to have grand children which i do but he is only 3 months old. so i have to wait a few years before i can take him to the track with me.. can't wait.
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