Pats Vs Colts

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Sam Cassell plays football now? How's he fit the helmet on that head?

Did you ever see that Martian in the Bugs Bunny cartoons?

yep..that's Sam

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by skippy3481

Of course they would win games, but they wouldn't be a super bowl contender. What qb would have brought the pats back at indy last week. Thats where brady makes his money.

Brady makes less than Mark Bulger and Alex Smith, he's not making much money. I never claimed that another QB would be able to beat the Colts in Indianapolis. I claimed that they would still be in the top three or four teams in the league which is absolutely true.

[skippy3481]

Without brady they are number 3 in the AFC at best.

[Crown@club]

Up 35-7 on Miami. Casell comes in and gives 14pts away. Oh crap we better bring Brady back in to stop that.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Up 35-7 on Miami. Casell comes in and gives 14pts away. Oh crap we better bring Brady back in to stop that.

He threw two passes and one was intercepted for a TD. So he gave away one TD. If he is in the top 40 QBs in the NFL then that is not going to happen every possession.

[Crown@club]

Actually if they had a running game, it should never be a problem. But they truely don't have a running game.

We'll see Lamont Jordan there next year to split with Maroney. Like thats going to help.

[SniperSB23]

I haven't seen the play but based on this it seems almost certain it was a zone blitz:

3rd and 8 at NE 32 (10:40) (Shotgun) M.Cassel pass short middle intended for W.Welker INTERCEPTED by J.Taylor at NE 36. J.Taylor for 36 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Inexperienced QBs make that mistake all the time, most of the time though the DE dropping into coverage isn't as athletic as Jason Taylor. You can't base your entire assessment of Cassell on that one mistake.

[Danzig]

brady is putting up some obscene numbers.
as to the mental exercise of where the pats would be without him, who the hell knows? but to say they'd be close to the same without....um, yeah.

thing is, he's the leader of the offense, and they are playing lights out. he is doing a great job, as is the rest of the team. they're in perfect sync.

brady, four ints all year. and how many td passes? on track to blow away peytons passes for tds in a season.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

brady is putting up some obscene numbers.
as to the mental exercise of where the pats would be without him, who the hell knows? but to say they'd be close to the same without....um, yeah.

thing is, he's the leader of the offense, and they are playing lights out. he is doing a great job, as is the rest of the team. they're in perfect sync.

brady, four ints all year. and how many td passes? on track to blow away peytons passes for tds in a season.

Everyone said the same thing about Joe Montana, then he went down and Steve Young stepped in. Then they said the same thing about Steve Young and then he went down and Steve Bono and Elvis Grbac stepped in. The system can make a QB and in this case the NE offense is good enough to make anyone look good and Brady look otherworldly. Here are the yards per attempt and QB ratings for those San Fran guys:

Steve Young with SF - 8.2 - 101.4
Steve Young w/o SF - 6.4 - 63.1
Joe Montana with SF - 7.6 - 93.5
Joe Montana w/o SF - 6.9 - 85.6
Steve Bono with SF - 7.1 - 87.7
Steve Bono w/o SF - 5.9 - 71.9
Elvis Grbac with SF - 7.2 - 85.6
Elvis Grbac w/o SF - 6.8 - 78.3

[Danzig]

all i know is i think it's a waste to say what would a team be like if...

he's on the team, he's part of it. whether he's important or not, who knows? could he do the same without moss? maybe. a car will run on seven cylinders too.

btw, elvis who?! just kidding...i remember mr grbac.

but regardless of what those other guys did, i don't remember any of them being mentioned as the best ever. but plenty say montana may have been.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Danzig

all i know is i think it's a waste to say what would a team be like if...

he's on the team, he's part of it. whether he's important or not, who knows? could he do the same without moss? maybe. a car will run on seven cylinders too.

btw, elvis who?! just kidding...i remember mr grbac.

but regardless of what those other guys did, i don't remember any of them being mentioned as the best ever. but plenty say montana may have been.

That's cause he went to Notre Dame and lucked into having the best receiver of all time. Very good QB who was excellent in the clutch? Sure. Best ever? No way, I'd take Elway over him in a heartbeat and a few others in a couple heartbeats.