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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

As you see, folks ...

... when you stand up to these guys ... they eventualy get so frustrated and emotional that they expose their true selves.

We're clearly dealing here with a bunch of America-haters ... who have no real ideas ... but whose every word, move, and reflex is controlled by a hatred for the country which has protected them and allowed them to live in security and freedom.

At some point ... it becomes useless to continue debate with them ... because they're not only beyond reason ... they're even beyond humiliation and shame.

So that takes all the fun out it. How much more could I have humiliated them? And yet their hatred makes them impervious to even knowing how utterly foolish they look.

Notice again, no answer to the question about loyalties and traitors. What a surprise. Once again, avoid the question. You are so full of it it is amazing. Did Rush or Sean teach you that yesterday afternoon? I love the attack on grammar and spelling on a chat site. That is hilarious. Some of us type quickly.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Great it is deadly serious to them. Let them pay for it then. No more US tax dollars for them.

Hey, bud ... I offered to reimburse you for the 45¢ this is costing you.

But you ran and hid from that one too ... didn't you?

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

The America-haters could care less about the suffering of decent human beings.

"You're either with us ... or you're with the terrorists" ... and they've made it abundantly clear ... that they're with the terrorists.

God bless you ... and everyone you love, my friend.

That is my favorite argument. I am just going to guess you never spent a day in the military, just like Dick Cheney, Wolfowitz, Libby, but you love to say you are with us or against us, as long as I don't have to fight. COWARD.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Notice again, no answer to the question about loyalties and traitors. What a surprise. Once again, avoid the question. You are so full of it it is amazing. Did Rush or Sean teach you that yesterday afternoon? I love the attack on grammar and spelling on a chat site. That is hilarious. Some of us type quickly.

You seem to have an inordinate fear of radio entertainers.

No surprise ... since you're also scared witless by typed words which appear on your monitor.

WATCH OUT !!!




Heh-heh-heh ... I love to scare this guy.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Hey, bud ... I offered to reimburse you for the 45¢ this is costing you.

But you ran and hid from that one too ... didn't you?

Why don't you reimburse all the americans their money? That would be about $100 Billion. Wow, I wonder if you could rebuild a town like New Orleans or provide better education or healthcare with that money.


You are so dumb, it isn't even funny. That is a nice house and drug habit you rush limbaugh supporters have built him. LOL.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

You seem to have an inordinate fear of radio entertainers.

No surprise ... since you're also scared witless by typed words which appear on your monitor.

WATCH OUT !!!




Heh-heh-heh ... I love to scare this guy.

WHERE IS MY ANSWER TO WHERE YOUR LOYALTIES REST AND YOUR VIEW ON TRAITORS LIKE JONATHAN POLLARD? I answered your comments point by point. WHERE IS YOUR ANSWER, TRAITOR?

Originally Posted by boldruler

Why don't you reimburse all the americans their money? That would be about $100 Billion. Wow, I wonder if you could rebuild a town like New Orleans or provide better education or healthcare with that money.


You are so dumb, it isn't even funny. That is a nice house and drug habit you rush limbaugh supporters have built him. LOL.

Still can't bring yourself to capitalize "American" can you?

You really need help ... you really should go see a competent psychiatrist ... and try to find out why you hate the hand that has fed and nurtured you.

Sick ... sick ... sick.

You should change your name from bold brooklynite to bold tel aviv, because you clearly are no american.

Originally Posted by boldruler

I answered your comments point by point.

Can you repeat the answers?

Just copy and paste them ... so everyone can see them.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Still can't bring yourself to capitalize "American" can you?

You really need help ... you really should go see a competent psychiatrist ... and try to find out why you hate the hand that has fed and nurtured you.

Sick ... sick ... sick.

You send me your e-mail in a private message and I will send you my op-ed piece that ran in Stars and Stripes, the US Military newspaper. Then you say that about me, coward. I actually care about my country and the people that fight for it, unlike traitors like you that talk a big game but do nothing.

YOU ARE A TRAITOR TO AMERICA.

Originally Posted by boldruler

You should change your name from bold brooklynite to bold tel aviv, because you clearly are no american.

That's American ... with a capital "A"

And Brooklyinite ... with a capital "B"

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Can you repeat the answers?

Just copy and paste them ... so everyone can see them.

Post #145. Do I need to put that in Hebrew for you? LOL.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

That's American ... with a capital "A"

And Brooklyinite ... with a capital "B"

And Traitor with a T. Because that is what you are.

STILL NO ANSWER.

ARE YOUR LOYALTIES TO AMERICA OR ISRAEL, when their interests don't go hand in hand?

ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF FREEING AN ISRAELI SPY LIKE JONATHAN POLLARD, A TRAITOR TO AMERICA, like many israelis?


Mr Bold, or Traitor, or whatever your name is, seems to have a big mouth, but not on these questions.

Originally Posted by boldruler

STILL NO ANSWER.

ARE YOUR LOYALTIES TO AMERICA OR ISRAEL, when their interests don't go hand in hand?

ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF FREEING AN ISRAELI SPY LIKE JONATHAN POLLARD, A TRAITOR TO AMERICA, like many israelis?


Mr Bold, or Traitor, or whatever your name is, seems to have a big mouth, but not on these questions.

Sometimes ... when you say "May I have your attention?" ... although you usually don't say "May I" ...

... the answer is "No."

No ... you may not have my attention ... even if you type in all caps.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Sometimes ... when you say "May I have your attention?" ... although you usually don't say "May I" ...

... the answer is "No."

No ... you may not have my attention ... even if you type in all caps.

Notice I answered questions to me, but a traitor and a coward like you, can't answer two simply questions.

ARE YOUR LOYALTIES TO AMERICA OR ISRAEL, when their interests don't go hand in hand?

ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF FREEING AN ISRAELI SPY LIKE JONATHAN POLLARD, A TRAITOR TO AMERICA, like many israelis?

What have I asked that 10x now, with no response?

When I asked why my tax dollars should pay for your countries military, you came up with a ridiculous answer, but after 20x you answered it. This time, no answer at all.

No surprise. YOU ARE A TRAITOR. The truth comes out. Your allegiance is obviously to another country. Very sad. Please don't comment on my country, the greatest country in the world, the United States of America, any longer. You really aren't an American.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Notice I answered questions to me, but a traitor and a coward like you, can't answer two simply questions.

ARE YOUR LOYALTIES TO AMERICA OR ISRAEL, when their interests don't go hand in hand?

ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF FREEING AN ISRAELI SPY LIKE JONATHAN POLLARD, A TRAITOR TO AMERICA, like many israelis?


No surprise. YOU ARE A TRAITOR. The truth comes out. Your allegiance is obviously to another country. Very sad. Please don't comment on my country, the greatest country in the world, the United States of America, any longer. You really aren't an American.

So ... as always ... it gets personal with you and your ilk.

You have no ideas ... no facts ... no ability to form cogent thoughts ... and no writing skills ... other than to put everything in boldface or all caps ...

... so .. all you're left with are name-calling and personal attacks.

You revealed yourself quite a few posts ago ... we don't need any more posts from you to reinforce what we already know.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

So ... as always ... it gets personal with you and your ilk.

You have no ideas ... no facts ... no ability to form cogent thoughts ... and no writing skills ... other than to put everything in boldface or all caps ...

... so .. all you're left with are name-calling and personal attacks.

You revealed yourself quite a few posts ago ... we don't need any more posts from you to reinforce what we already know.

Where are your answers? They are two simple questions. How hard is it for you to answer them? Just admit you are not a real American. That your first allegiance is to another country, just like your hero Jonathan Pollard. I bet Marc Rich was another hero of yours.

You love to go attacking us Real Americans and you aren't even one. Enough with you traitors. I bet if you were alive in 1776 you would have sided with the British and tried to hedge your bet with the Americans. I am glad you aren't a real American, we don't like cowards in our country.

The United States of America is the land of the free and home of the brave, not the coward with allegiance to another country.

With the new world we live in US and Israeli interest often clash. To paraphrase you favorite saying, "You are either an american or not an american and you are with us or against us." You seem to be against us.

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I thought this was a fair and balanced article that summarizes where American tax dollars are going as well as offering something other than an uber-Zionist view of the MidEast.


by Jonathan Cook

July 22, 2006



The general surprise that Lebanese civilians are taking the brunt of Israel's onslaught – and the unwillingness in some quarters of the media to report the fact – reflects a poor understanding of Israel's historical use of violence. Since its birth six decades ago, Israel has always been officially "going after the terrorists," but its actions have invariably harmed civilians in an indiscriminate manner.



The roll call of dishonor is long indeed, but its highlights include: the massacre of some 200 civilians in Tantura, as well as large-scale massacres in at least a dozen other Palestinian villages, during the 1948 war that established Israel; Ariel Sharon's attack on the village of Qibya in 1953 that killed 70 innocent Palestinians; the Kfar Qassem massacre inside Israel when 49 farm workers were gunned down at an improvised army checkpoint; a massacre in the same year in the refugee camp of Khan Yunis, in Gaza, in which more than 250 civilians were killed; attacks on dozens of Palestinian, Egyptian and Syrian villages during the 1967 war; the killing of six unarmed Arab citizens of Israel in 1976; the massacre of hundreds of Palestinian civilians in the Lebanese refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla in 1982; the unremitting use of lethal force by the army against unarmed Palestinians, often women and children, during the first intifada of 1987-93; the aerial bombardment of Qana in south Lebanon in 1996 that killed more than 100 civilians; and the endless "collateral damage" of Palestinian civilians during the second intifada, including a half-ton bomb that killed a husband and wide and their seven children a week ago.



The true reasons for these deaths are concealed from credulous observers by Israel's use of Orwellian language. When it says it is destroying the "infrastructure of terror," Israel means it is crushing all Arab resistance to its territorial ambitions in the region. The "infrastructure" includes most Arab men, women and children because they continue to support – against Israel's wishes – their peoples' rights to self-determination without interference from the Israeli army.



In this sense, and others, there is very little difference between what Israel is doing in Gaza to overturn the democratic wishes of the Palestinian electorate and what it is doing in Lebanon to smash any hopes of a democratic future for its northern neighbor. In Gaza, it wants Hamas destroyed because Hamas is prepared to counter Israel's unilateral policies with its own unilateral agenda; and in Lebanon, Israel wants Hezbollah obliterated because it is the only force capable, possibly, of preventing a repeat of Israel's long invasion and occupation of the 1980s and 1990s.



By rounding up the Palestinian cabinet, Israel is not destroying terror, it is clipping the political wings of Hamas, those in its leadership who are quickly learning the arts of government and searching for a space in which they can negotiate with Israel. Through its rejectionist behavior, Israel is only confirming the doubts of those in the Hamas military wing who argue Israel always acts in bad faith.



Similarly in Lebanon, Israel is holding Hezbollah less to account with its attacks than the Lebanese people and their government, despite the latter's transparently shaky grip on the country. Israel's military strikes polarize opinion in Lebanon, weaken Fouad Siniora and his ministers, and threaten to push Lebanon over the brink into another civil war.



Israel is keen to talk about "changing the balance of power" in Gaza and Lebanon, implying that it is trying to strengthen the "democrats" against the "terrorists." But this impression is entirely false. Israeli actions are destroying what little balance of power exists in Gaza and Lebanon so that the two areas become ungovernable.



In Gaza, Israel has been engineering a debilitating struggle for power between Fatah and Hamas, while in Lebanon whatever hollow shell of national unity has existed till now is in danger of cracking under the strain of the Israeli onslaught.



Superficially at least, this seems self-destructive behavior on Israel's part, given that it has also been striving to detect the fingerprints of outside actors in Gaza and Lebanon.



In the case of Gaza, Israel points to Syria as a safe haven for the exiled Hamas leader Khaled Meshal, to Hezbollah and Iran as sponsors of Hamas "terror" and even to a new al-Qaeda presence. In the case of Lebanon, Israel additionally identifies the strong ties between Hezbollah and Damascus and Tehran.



So why would Israel want Lebanon and Gaza to be ravaged by factional fighting of the kind that might make them more vulnerable to this kind of unwelcome interference from outside?



A history lesson or two helps clarify Israel's reasoning.



In the occupied Palestinian territories, Hamas was born during the upheavals of the first intifada and encouraged by Israel as a counterweight to the unifying secular Palestinian nationalism of Yasser Arafat.



In Lebanon, the Shi'ite militia Hezbollah was the inevitable byproduct of Israel's occupation of the south and its establishment of a mostly Christian proxy militia, the South Lebanon Army, against the Muslim majority.



In both cases it is clear Israel hoped that, by Islamizing its opponents in these regional conflicts, it would delegitimize them in the eyes of Western allies and that it could cultivate sectarianism as a way to further weaken the social cohesiveness of its neighbors.



Recently Israel has encouraged the slide deeper into Islamic extremism through its policies of unilateralism and its refusal to negotiate.



The same set of policies is being continued now in the Palestinian territories and Lebanon: the shattering of these two societies will only deepen the trend toward radical Islam. Islamic movements not only offer the best hope of local resistance to Israel for these weakened societies but they also offer a parallel social infrastructure of health care and welfare services as state institutions collapse.



There is immediate advantage for Israel in this outcome. With secular society crushed and Islamic resistance movements filling the void, Israel will be able to reinforce the impression of many in the West that Israel is on the front line of global "war of terror" being waged by a single implacable enemy, Islam. Israel's ability to persuade the world that this war is being waged against the whole "civilized" Judeo-Christian West will be made that bit easier.



As a result, Israel may be able to drag its paymaster, the United States, deeper into the mire of the Middle East as a junior partner rather than as an honest broker, giving Israel cover while it carves up yet more Palestinian land for annexation, puts further pressure on the Palestinians to leave their homeland, and destabilizes its regional enemies so that they are powerless to offer protest or resistance.



For some time President Bush has found himself in no position to criticize Israeli actions when Tel Aviv claims to be doing no more to the Palestinians than the US is doing to the Iraqis. If the US allows itself to be handcuffed to Israel's even more extreme version of the "war on terror," the consequences will be dire not just for the Palestinians or the region, but for all of us.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Where are your answers? They are two simple questions. How hard is it for you to answer them? Just admit you are not a real American. That your first allegiance is to another country, just like your hero Jonathan Pollard. I bet Marc Rich was another hero of yours.

You love to go attacking us Real Americans and you aren't even one. Enough with you traitors. I bet if you were alive in 1776 you would have sided with the British and tried to hedge your bet with the Americans. I am glad you aren't a real American, we don't like cowards in our country.

The United States of America is the land of the free and home of the brave, not the coward with allegiance to another country.

With the new world we live in US and Israeli interest often clash. To paraphrase you favorite saying, "You are either an american or not an american and you are with us or against us." You seem to be against us.

Being the wonderful, kind person that I am ... I'm always willing to help the unfortunate among us.

You have a great deal of difficulty with reading comprehension ... and a very poor memory ... so I'll do the best I can to assist you.

At 8:47pm last night ... that's about 18 hours ago ... I posted extensive details about how ignorant and self-humiliating your posts were (Post #104 on this thread).

At 9:01pm ... you posted again ... but completely avoided any response to what I had posted ... but ... you did say you would respond point-by-point (Post #106).

But ... at 9:27pm ... I told you ... and the world ... right to your face ... that you neither had the fortitude, knowledge, or skills to reply (Post #109). And ... as always ... I was right ... in the nearly 18 hours since ... you haven't replied.

Perhaps you thought everyone else forgot ... or more likely ... given your poor cerebral functions ... you forgot.

But again ... just to show you what a nice guy I am ... I'll repost it now ... and give you one more chance. Do you understand that? You're supposed to read the following words ... and respond to them point-by-point ... just as you said you would 18 hours ago. The post was originally addressed to Dalakhani ... but the person who is referred to as "your boy" is you. Do you really understand that? [Why am I still convinced that he doesn't?]

OK ... here goes ...

"You seem to think that your boy is doing well ... so .. let's look at his record so far on this thread ---

• Says people in small countries are sub-human ... gets slapped down.
• Thinks the Star of David is a religious symbol ... gets humiliated.
• Thinks a country's success depends on "oil" and "minerals" ... another slapdown.
• Doesn't know American values are stated in the Declaration and Constitution ... another humiliation.
• Confronts Dixie ... gets b-slapped.
• Doesn't know the Israeli war is part of the global war on terror ... blatant ignorance.
• Thinks all Israelis are orthodox Jews ... at least he was 10% right.
• Quotes Pat Buchanan ... at least it wasn't David Duke.
• Doesn't know who pays income taxes ... gets slapped down again.
• Thinks terrorists are "freedom fighters" ... still another slapdown.
• Forgot we liberated France, Belgium, and China ... hits the canvas more than Frazier vs. Foreman.
• Doesn't know Iraq has a democratically elected government ... more public ignorance.
• Says oil is "expensive" then says oil is "cheap" ... more self-humiliation.

Hmmm ... if the real Bold Ruler did as well as your boy ... he'd have been gelded and shipped to Nebraska."

Now ... this is your big chance to live up to what you said and respond point-by-point. Do you understand that? Good ... ready ... set .................... GO !!!