Obama wrong yet again

[FlBred]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

No he should have said less than 1% of our country is Muslim but despite that the 99% plus who are not Muslim elected a President with a Muslim father and a Muslim background. He should have also explained why he was raised Christian. I'm sure with the great tollerance the Muslim people have shown lately he would have been applauded or beheaded.

WOW!! And people wonder why our society is screwed up......Ignorance will tear this country apart before everything else!!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

That good enough? Just because the Obama says so doesn't make it true!!!

Not in the world of narrow-viewed Euro-centric history, obviously

[Riot]

Originally Posted by FlBred

WOW!! And people wonder why our society is screwed up......Ignorance will tear this country apart before everything else!!

"We meet at a time of tension between the United States and Muslims around the world - tension rooted in historical forces that go beyond any current policy debate. .... Moreover, the sweeping change brought by modernity and globalization led many Muslims to view the West as hostile to the traditions of Islam."

"Violent extremists have exploited these tensions in a small but potent minority of Muslims. The attacks of September 11th, 2001 and the continued efforts of these extremists to engage in violence against civilians has led some in my country to view Islam as inevitably hostile not only to America and Western countries, but also to human rights. This has bred more fear and mistrust."

"So long as our relationship is defined by our differences, we will empower those who sow hatred rather than peace, and who promote conflict rather than the cooperation that can help all of our people achieve justice and prosperity. This cycle of suspicion and discord must end."

"In Ankara, I made clear that America is not - and never will be - at war with Islam. We will, however, relentlessly confront violent extremists who pose a grave threat to our security. Because we reject the same thing that people of all faiths reject: the killing of innocent men, women, and children. And it is my first duty as President to protect the American people.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I want to know how we get respect when our President over and over just apologizes for his county. For OUR country. Its really making me sick.

Where does he "over and over apologizes for his country?" What are you talking about?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Where does he "over and over apologizes for his country?" What are you talking about?

The president chose Arab television, Al Arabiya, to give his first sit down interview. He took the opportunity to confirm the long held Arab view that the real problem is America and President Obama apologized on our behalf.

At the annual World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, Switzerland, the president's confidant and advisor Valery Jarrett continued with apologies. This time to the world's business and political movers and shakers.

Ms. Jarrett told the crowd that this economic crisis did not occur by "happenstance" but is the result of our "profound irresponsibility."


Our new president is a man of action as well as a man of words, so while he and his staff apologized to the world for who we have been, he began the task at home to make us a different country.


The latest examples have come on his visits to Central and South America. First, Obama said that the United States is responsible for a huge portion – as much as 90 percent – of the guns being used by Mexican drug smugglers. As a matter of demonstrable fact, that is absolutely, positively wrong. Second, Obama warmly greeted Venezuela’s radical leftist dictator, Hugo Chavez, and then indicated he would open a more extensive dialogue with Chavez. Obama’s act looked terribly obsequious in light of Chavez’ “gift” to Obama of a four-decade-old book (“Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent,” by Uruguayan author Eduardo Galeano) that virulently assails the United States.

After that, Obama sat nearly mute as Nicaragua Communist leader Daniel Ortega made a rabble-rousing speech viciously castigating the United States. Obama’s most forceful response to that was that Latin Americans shouldn’t blame him personally for things (such as the Bay of Pigs fiasco) that happened way back in the year of his birth. In other words, the message wasn’t to defend the United States, but instead effectively to ratify the notion that the United States is evil while washing his own hands of any responsibility for the supposed evil. Again, this is not the behavior the American people have a right to expect from their president. Indeed, it is the polar opposite of what we have a right to expect.

is that enough?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Where does he "over and over apologizes for his country?" What are you talking about?

are you fucl<ing kidding me? He's been on an apology tour since he's been elected. I'm not even going to waste my time pasting quotes. You can look up what he says for yourself, or maybe listen to his speeches.

[Antitrust32]

Del, he even apologized for us in his speech in Germany last week. Maybe he should have mentioned that Germany and most of Europe would still be controlled by Nazi's if it wasnt for the good ol' US of A.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

The president chose Arab television, Al Arabiya, to give his first sit down interview. He took the opportunity to confirm the long held Arab view that the real problem is America and President Obama apologized on our behalf.

At the annual World Economic Forum meeting in Davos, Switzerland, the president's confidant and advisor Valery Jarrett continued with apologies. This time to the world's business and political movers and shakers.

Ms. Jarrett told the crowd that this economic crisis did not occur by "happenstance" but is the result of our "profound irresponsibility."


Our new president is a man of action as well as a man of words, so while he and his staff apologized to the world for who we have been, he began the task at home to make us a different country.


The latest examples have come on his visits to Central and South America. First, Obama said that the United States is responsible for a huge portion – as much as 90 percent – of the guns being used by Mexican drug smugglers. As a matter of demonstrable fact, that is absolutely, positively wrong. Second, Obama warmly greeted Venezuela’s radical leftist dictator, Hugo Chavez, and then indicated he would open a more extensive dialogue with Chavez. Obama’s act looked terribly obsequious in light of Chavez’ “gift” to Obama of a four-decade-old book (“Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent,” by Uruguayan author Eduardo Galeano) that virulently assails the United States.

After that, Obama sat nearly mute as Nicaragua Communist leader Daniel Ortega made a rabble-rousing speech viciously castigating the United States. Obama’s most forceful response to that was that Latin Americans shouldn’t blame him personally for things (such as the Bay of Pigs fiasco) that happened way back in the year of his birth. In other words, the message wasn’t to defend the United States, but instead effectively to ratify the notion that the United States is evil while washing his own hands of any responsibility for the supposed evil. Again, this is not the behavior the American people have a right to expect from their president. Indeed, it is the polar opposite of what we have a right to expect.

is that enough?

If you are going to quote from other sources ( when was the last time you used the word "obsequious" in a sentence), can you list what they are?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

are you fucl<ing kidding me? He's been on an apology tour since he's been elected. I'm not even going to waste my time pasting quotes. You can look up what he says for yourself, or maybe listen to his speeches.

No, I'm not fucl<ing kidding you. I've read all his speeches. "An apology tour" isn't there.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

are you fucl<ing kidding me? He's been on an apology tour since he's been elected. I'm not even going to waste my time pasting quotes. You can look up what he says for yourself, or maybe listen to his speeches.

Guess Huffington doesn't cover that subject?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

is that enough?

No Dell, that's nonsensical Quote me Obamas words, not some unattributed right-wing editorialists' opinion.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Guess Huffington doesn't cover that subject?

Don't know. I tend to watch and read things directly, and form my own opinions, rather than depend upon others to tell me what to think.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Guess Huffington doesn't cover that subject?

lol I cant believe I'm arguing something that is so fucl<ing obvious.


but maybe I'm just arrogant, because you know American's are arrogant according to our Great One.

So I greatly apologize.

I cant believe he called us arrogant, in France of all places!

[GBBob]

If he is or isn't 'apoligizing" isn't the point to me..He should be in my mind for the last 8 years of a giant F-You to much of the World by the isolationists in charge here.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Don't know. I tend to watch and read things directly, and form my own opinions, rather than depend upon others to tell me what to think.

hilarious

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

If he is or isn't 'apoligizing" isn't the point to me..He should be in my mind for the last 8 years of a giant F-You to much of the World by the isolationists in charge here.

Should we apologize for being the greatest nation in the world, for liberty and freedom, and basically helping out any country when it asks for help? Should we apologize for liberating Europe in WWII? How about for pouring tons of money into African AIDS programs to educate and help the pandemic?

Whether or not we have made mistakes in the past, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to go to every country and apologize for us. It makes us look weak to our enemies and to our allies. And it is very disrespectful to all 300 million living in the US and everyone who has ever fought for our freedom.

[Riot]

[quote=Antitrust32]lol I cant believe I'm arguing something that is so fucl<ing obvious. [quote]

Not to point out the obvious, but you are not "arguing" anything.

You're just repeating something over and over, and getting angry and swearing when asked what you are referring to.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Should we apologize for being the greatest nation in the world, for liberty and freedom, and basically helping out any country when it asks for help? Should we apologize for liberating Europe in WWII? How about for pouring tons of money into African AIDS programs to educate and help the pandemic?

Whether or not we have made mistakes in the past, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to go to every country and apologize for us. It makes us look weak to our enemies and to our allies. And it is very disrespectful to all 300 million living in the US and everyone who has ever fought for our freedom.

I don't know Lori..when I make a mistake, I apoligize, no matter how great a guy I might be or what I've done for anyone, etc...same thing. It's not demeaning to say you're sorry, it's not a weakness..it's a strength.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Whether or not we have made mistakes in the past, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to go to every country and apologize for us. .

Thus you'd think we'd be able to find a few concrete examples of Obama having done that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

hilarious

I know, it's a strange concept for you to imagine