Egypt

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Nope.

#7 12-04-2010, 02:06 PM
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I don't think Government grant money should be given to any place of worship or to even say a Catholic school.

Either do I. The grant is not for the mosque, but for the community center part, isn't it?


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I also would not object to a muslim amusement park including using tax incentives and perhaps would visit just out of curiosity. I'd also suggest Detroit MI for a location as I suspect like KY they may have a need for business (of any legal kind) unlike Manhattan.

I can't imagine any other religion wanting a theme park

The people involved in this said they did a survey, and that area in northern Kentucky just outside Cincinnati is apparently the best place in the country to attract the type of people that would want to visit a Creation Museum.

The Creation Museum teaches school field trips that the earth is only 6,000 years old, dinosaurs were on the Ark in the form of eggs, dinosaurs and man walked the earth together, and carbon dating is simply false.

In fact, the Creation Museum was so successful, now we have the Ark Park that wants to be right next door. With live animals and a 200-yard long real Ark. Yipee.__________________
"Be impeccable with your word. Speak with integrity."

Last response of page 2.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39848

[Riot]

Dell said:

An Egyptian journalist named Sameh Fawzy. He's a lot closer to the situation than Kentucky.

And Wisconsin

Now I have to go post the Egyptian journalists who say differently for you

Rather than journalists, how about we look at what ambassadors, those involved politically, have to say?

He stated, "Of course, the huge gains in the 2005 parliamentary elections allowed the Brotherhood to pose "a democratic political challenge to the regime, not a theological one" .[40] Initially, there has been widespread skepticism regarding the movement's commitment to use its influence to push Egypt forward towards a democratic state. For instance, briefly after the elections Sameh Fawzy remarked in the Al-Ahram Weekly newspaper, [b]"If the Muslim Brotherhood were in a position to enforce its ideological monopoly, the vast majority of the populace would face severe restrictions on its freedom of opinion and belief, not just on religious matters, but on social, political, economic and cultural affairs as well"

Provide the link and the author, please. That's obviously an opinion piece - not a piece by Fawzy, but partially quoting him. So you're quoting a partial quote being made by someone else writing an opinion piece.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

#7 12-04-2010, 02:06 PM
Riot
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I don't think Government grant money should be given to any place of worship or to even say a Catholic school.

Either do I. The grant is not for the mosque, but for the community center part, isn't it?


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I also would not object to a muslim amusement park including using tax incentives and perhaps would visit just out of curiosity. I'd also suggest Detroit MI for a location as I suspect like KY they may have a need for business (of any legal kind) unlike Manhattan.

I can't imagine any other religion wanting a theme park

The people involved in this said they did a survey, and that area in northern Kentucky just outside Cincinnati is apparently the best place in the country to attract the type of people that would want to visit a Creation Museum.

The Creation Museum teaches school field trips that the earth is only 6,000 years old, dinosaurs were on the Ark in the form of eggs, dinosaurs and man walked the earth together, and carbon dating is simply false.

In fact, the Creation Museum was so successful, now we have the Ark Park that wants to be right next door. With live animals and a 200-yard long real Ark. Yipee.__________________
"Be impeccable with your word. Speak with integrity."

Last response of page 2.

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39848

what does this have to do with egypt?

[Riot]

I eliminated the stuff in quotes you posted that I did not say.

So you think the following is "biggoted (sic)", hum? Okay

I can't imagine any other religion wanting a theme park

The people involved in this said they did a survey, and that area in northern Kentucky just outside Cincinnati is apparently the best place in the country to attract the type of people that would want to visit a Creation Museum.

The Creation Museum teaches school field trips that the earth is only 6,000 years old, dinosaurs were on the Ark in the form of eggs, dinosaurs and man walked the earth together, and carbon dating is simply false.

In fact, the Creation Museum was so successful, now we have the Ark Park that wants to be right next door. With live animals and a 200-yard long real Ark. Yipee.

[Danzig]

as an aside, there's a christian theme park in fla, near disney world. love bill mahers visit there in his film 'religulous'.


i would love to see all countries have a separation of church and state...ah, one can dream.

[Riot]

Here's some other views of the MB that try to anticipate their involvement in Egypts future, based upon their performances in the past.

Nobody, including Egyptians, wants to see a violent, terroristic regime end up in place - they just got rid of that. But many, especially in the United States, seem to be focusing on the fearing the MB exclusively.

The Muslim Bogeymen in Egypt
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-..._b_817988.html

English Website Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/

Don't Fear Egypts Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/20...pt_riedel.aspx

And even The Jerusalem Post (with links to other concerns about the MB) - Sun, Feb 13, 2011 http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207500

Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt: We won't take over gov't
Representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt said they do not want to take over but merely want to be a part of government, CNN reported Wednesday.

"The Muslim Brotherhood is not seeking power," an official said speaking at a press conference. "We will not have a presidential candidate, we want to participate and help, we are not seeking power," according to the report.

In a move intended to distance the movement from allegations that it is an extremist group, former head of the Muslim Brotherhood's parliamentary bloc, Mohammed Katatny, said: "We reject the religious state."

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

as an aside, there's a christian theme park in fla, near disney world. love bill mahers visit there in his film 'religulous'.

i would love to see all countries have a separation of church and state...ah, one can dream.

I saw that in the movie Hey, but KY is gonna get a life-sized ark! And the animals that were on the ark. Some of them. Except for the dinosaur. Dinosaurs were apparently eggs on Noah's Ark, according to the theme park. And did you know all dinosaurs were vegetarians, until Adam ate the apple? Then some became carnivores

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Here's some other views of the MB that try to anticipate their involvement in Egypts future, based upon their performances in the past.

Nobody, including Egyptians, wants to see a violent, terroristic regime end up in place - they just got rid of that. But many, especially in the United States, seem to be focusing on the fearing the MB exclusively.

The Muslim Bogeymen in Egypt
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-..._b_817988.html

English Website Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.ikhwanweb.com/

Don't Fear Egypts Muslim Brotherhood
http://www.brookings.edu/opinions/20...pt_riedel.aspx

And even The Jerusalem Post (with links to other concerns about the MB) - Sun, Feb 13, 2011 http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=207500

Look I hope for the sake of all you're right.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

I saw that in the movie Hey, but KY is gonna get a life-sized ark! And the animals that were on the ark. Some of them. Except for the dinosaur. Dinosaurs were apparently eggs on Noah's Ark, according to the theme park. And did you know all dinosaurs were vegetarians, until Adam ate the apple? Then some became carnivores

well at least in the Quran there was time before time and all God had to do is think be and it would be. Didn't get far enough to find out when or how vegetarian dinosaurs became carnivores. You know some Christians might take what you said above as being offensive to say the least. However rest assured unlike some of their muslim counterparts they have no desire to cut off your head.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

well at least in the Quran there was time before time and all God had to do is think be and it would be. Didn't get far enough to find out when or how vegetarian dinosaurs became carnivores. You know some Christians might take what you said above as being offensive to say the least. However rest assured unlike some of their muslim counterparts they have no desire to cut off your head.

Some Christians take the entire Creation Museum as offensive.

Some Christians want women with acutely life-threatening injuries obtained via accident to be able to be refused treatment at emergency rooms if her emergency treatment needed to save her life involves taking the baby. Doesn't even require the hospital send her elsewhere. This is a change to current law that requires all hospitals to immediately give minimal life-saving emergency care without question. This bill is a resolution currently waiting for a vote in our great new Congress. Bringing this to the floor was more important to some members of our new Republican Congress than jobs and the economy.

I'm sure cutting off her head would be a quicker death than being refused emergency treatment in America and bleeding out.

Religion is a dangerous force when it forces it's beliefs on all citizens via law.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Some Christians take the entire Creation Museum as offensive.

Some Christians want women with acutely life-threatening injuries obtained via accident to be able to be refused treatment at emergency rooms if her emergency treatment needed to save her life involves taking the baby. Doesn't even require the hospital send her elsewhere. This is a change to current law that requires all hospitals to immediately give minimal life-saving emergency care without question. This bill is a resolution currently waiting for a vote in our great new Congress. Bringing this to the floor was more important to some members of our new Republican Congress than jobs and the economy.

I'm sure cutting off her head would be a quicker death than being refused emergency treatment in America and bleeding out.

Religion is a dangerous force when it forces it's beliefs on all citizens via law.

You are still blaming the Republicans for everything as usual.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You are still blaming the Republicans for everything as usual.

And you're still speaking with the non-specific bumper sticker intelligence understanding of a first-grader. As usual.

I am indeed blaming the specific Republicans that brought and co-sponsored HR 258 into Congress for what it contains. Absolutely. The main writer is Rep. Joe Pitts (Republican-PA).

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

Some Christians take the entire Creation Museum as offensive.

Some Christians want women with acutely life-threatening injuries obtained via accident to be able to be refused treatment at emergency rooms if her emergency treatment needed to save her life involves taking the baby. Doesn't even require the hospital send her elsewhere. This is a change to current law that requires all hospitals to immediately give minimal life-saving emergency care without question. This bill is a resolution currently waiting for a vote in our great new Congress. Bringing this to the floor was more important to some members of our new Republican Congress than jobs and the economy.

I'm sure cutting off her head would be a quicker death than being refused emergency treatment in America and bleeding out.

Religion is a dangerous force when it forces it's beliefs on all citizens via law.

i agree on that score completely!! what a stupid law by the way. i don't see that getting passed.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you're still speaking with the non-specific bumper sticker intelligence understanding of a first-grader. As usual.

I am indeed blaming the specific Republicans that brought and co-sponsored HR 258 into Congress for what it contains. Absolutely. The main writer is Rep. Joe Pitts (Republican-PA).

And you are still living in your make believe word.

Im sure you will say this has the doing of the Republicans even though this is Obama's doing. I know it has nothing to do with Egypt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110213/...ma_pell_grants

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You are still blaming the Republicans for everything as usual.

that's all you garnered from that post? it's a crappy law, who cares who put it up? another resolution pushed forth that does nothing to grow the economy, or build jobs... it's garbage like that which will assure that the reps majority in the house won't last past the next election. they take their chance to do something worthwhile, and produce a bs resolution like that. bravo.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you're still speaking with the non-specific bumper sticker intelligence understanding of a first-grader. As usual.

I am indeed blaming the specific Republicans that brought and co-sponsored HR 258 into Congress for what it contains. Absolutely. The main writer is Rep. Joe Pitts (Republican-PA).

What bill number is this? HR 258 as I found it is...

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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

And you are still living in your make believe word.

Im sure you will say this has the doing of the Republicans even though this is Obama's doing. I know it has nothing to do with Egypt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110213/...ma_pell_grants

sounds like a good move.


'The first proposal would end the "year-round Pell" policy that let students collect two grants in a calendar year, with the second grant used for summer school. The official said the costs exceeded expectations and there was little evidence that students earn their degrees any faster.

The change would save $8 billion next year and $60 billion over a decade, the official said.'



the govt also needs to consider putting funding towards kids choosing to learn a trade, rather than pushing everyone to go to college. we're facing a shortage of plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics and hvac techs. happy to see that the gi bill will now pay for vo-tech schooling for vets.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's all you garnered from that post? it's a crappy law, who cares who put it up? another resolution pushed forth that does nothing to grow the economy, or build jobs... it's garbage like that which will assure that the reps majority in the house won't last past the next election. they take their chance to do something worthwhile, and produce a bs resolution like that. bravo.

Riot does it most of the time. Riot is always slamming the Republicans. I guess Riot's beloved Democrats are a perfect political party.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i agree on that score completely!! what a stupid law by the way. i don't see that getting passed.

One hopes so!

There are currently three new anti-women/anti-abortion House resolutions pending. They all are associated with (trying to change) the routine annual renewal of the "no federal funding for abortion" resolution that has existed since like 1970.

One was promised to be withdrawn. The one above, and another one, remains on hold. One may get past the House, but hopefully the Senate would stop them

[Riot]

And you are still living in your make believe word.

Blaming a Republican congressman for introducing a bill is make believe?