WI Union-busting provisions added in budget committee

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Your ignorance speaks volumes. All Prosser did in the past was call a Spade a Spade.

Your obvious objective impartiality speaks volumes, too. I'll bet you think it's awful that the Justice made Prosser call her a bitch.

Poor Prosser, being forced into calling her a bitch and threatening to destroy her.

Yeah. We know what to call that.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your obvious objective impartiality speaks volumes, too. I'll bet you think it's awful that the Justice made Prosser call her a bitch.

Poor Prosser, being forced into calling her a bitch and threatening to destroy her.

Yeah. We know what to call that.

So you can make statements and assumptions about Justice Prosser but no can make statements or assumptions about Justice Bradley. Makes sense. I personally do not know either of them, but the actions taken and and the handling of the ruling by Justice Bradley and Abrahamson was outrageous. If someone were to come at you the way Bradley did I guarantee you that your first reaction would be to put your hands up. That is the real truth of what happened that day and it will come out soon enough......

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

So you can make statements and assumptions about Justice Prosser but no can make statements or assumptions about Justice Bradley.

You can make all the assumptions you want about Justice Bradley. I'm just laughing because you've called my statements (what the people involved have said publicly) assumptions, and you maintain your statements (based upon discussions on the right wing blogs, not any special secret facts) are the truth.

That is the real truth of what happened that day and it will come out soon enough......

We'll see. And no, I am not giving Prosser any benefit of the doubt, based upon his previous performance and admissions.

[Riot]

Poor Prosser, he really can't control his temper. He's lucky he looked up and noticed he was being filmed (and gave the reporter his equipment back).

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-201...,7285152.story

[wiphan]

I have 3 words for you riot "duke lacrosse case"

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

Your obvious objective impartiality speaks volumes, too. .

dahoss... I think this is right up there with most Ironic Post of the year

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The problem is you are looking at it solely from your own personal experience. No one said that teachers unions are 100% responsible but they have to take the lions share of the blame. They are the single most powerful bloc involved with education and the huge national unions overwhelm the local boards and set up systems and rules that squeeze every penny they can into their coffers often at the expense of the students.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...concludes.html

Ok. I really don't think they are the lions share to blame either. I think the end result of all of this is the ending of public education in this country which is a shame. I see what is going on here in Idaho where I live now where it is overwhelmingly conservative and we are slowly turning our public education into home schooling. The current state superintendant was financed by home schooling corporations in his election and low and behold we are now requiring several on line classes by all students at the expense of a thousand teachers losing jobs...a massive increase in class size and laptops now being provided to all high school kids. And guess who will provide that on-line learnin'?? Could it be the corporations who financed his election!!! You don't say now do you!! I have no problem with home schooling for those who choose it, but I don't want my kids doing it in public schools which they will be now. My daughter won't be affected too much as she is nearly done, but my 3 boys will be and it will stink. Collective bargaining has been ended here and the unions pretty much shot which is the goal most places but here in Idaho it isn't a big news state so gets ignored, but I see home schooling being implemented with these required on line classes with teachers being turned into glorified baby sitters then turned into that completely.

Even in extremely conservative Idaho there was a recall attempt at the current state superintendant for what he is implementing but it failed...not quite enough signatures in time. This is where we are headed and I can't stand it.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Poor Prosser, he really can't control his temper. He's lucky he looked up and noticed he was being filmed (and gave the reporter his equipment back).

http://www.fox6now.com/news/witi-201...,7285152.story

The idea that you find any credibility in this newstory is laughable. You should see some of their other news stories on that local channel. The station is a joke and at times looks like a sat night live skit.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by wiphan

The idea that you find any credibility in this newstory is laughable..

Yeah! They probably photoshopped this video of Prosser angrily grabbing the reporters microphone away from him, looking up and seeing he was being videotaped, then giving it back and keeping his head down.

LOL - you've gotta be kidding

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah! They probably photoshopped this video of Prosser angrily grabbing the reporters microphone away from him, looking up and seeing he was being videotaped, then giving it back and keeping his head down.

LOL - you've gotta be kidding

Have you ever watched one of their news broadcasts? It is a great drinking game

[witchdoctor]

Damn Republicons

http://washingtonexaminer.com/politi...chool-district

[Danzig]

interesting article witch.

an excerpt that caught my eye:


In the past, Kaukauna's agreement with the teachers union required the school district to purchase health insurance coverage from something called WEA Trust -- a company created by the Wisconsin teachers union. "It was in the collective bargaining agreement that we could only negotiate with them," says Arnoldussen. "Well, you know what happens when you can only negotiate with one vendor." This year, WEA Trust told Kaukauna that it would face a significant increase in premiums.

Now, the collective bargaining agreement is gone, and the school district is free to shop around for coverage. And all of a sudden, WEA Trust has changed its position. "With these changes, the schools could go out for bids, and lo and behold, WEA Trust said, 'We can match the lowest bid,'" says Republican state Rep. Jim Steineke, who represents the area and supports the Walker changes. At least for the moment, Kaukauna is staying with WEA Trust, but saving substantial amounts of money.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Oh no. I quite believe what I write. As I already said I don't think it's likely he'll be charged by the sheriff, why in the world would I make a lousy bet I don't agree with?

You are the one actually trying to defend this slime. Why don't you at least clearly state what you think will happen here? All you've mumbled are insinuations of other people (not currently under investigation for either ethics or potential charges) being at fault or potentially at risk. While you say everyone else doesn't have enough information to make such judgments. Hypocritical much?

just wondering if you could give me an update on where things stand on the charges against David Prosser....

[dellinger63]

Bravo to WI Governor Walker who signed Act 10 into law.

Now, with immediate results in savings one must wonder why the unions fought so hard to defeat it? Could it be there was some sort of collusion between the unions and WEA Trust? And could that be grounds for a fraud investigation and possible recovery of ‘stolen’ public funds?

It’s a narrative we’ve touched on before – switching health insurers can save Wisconsin’s school districts hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. This summer, two local school boards have proven this point in dramatic fashion.

Hudson and Kaukauna have both made headlines recently for saving over $1.5 million combined through bidding out their teacher health insurance programs. As a result, these districts are getting deals that will provide high-level health care while saving significant funding dollars.

http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/08/...alth-insurers/

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Bravo to WI Governor Walker who signed Act 10 into law.

Now, with immediate results in savings one must wonder why the unions fought so hard to defeat it? Could it be there was some sort of collusion between the unions and WEA Trust? And could that be grounds for a fraud investigation and possible recovery of ‘stolen’ public funds?





http://maciverinstitute.com/2011/08/...alth-insurers/

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/127751463.html

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by wiphan

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/127751463.html

Too funny the media is blaming Walker for the WEA workers losing their jobs when in fact they lost their jobs because they couldn't produce a product that is competitive in the real world.

BTW how many new jobs were created? They leave that out.

The plan is a simple one and hopefully will serve as a blueprint for other 'overburdoned' States. No upfront costs to set up exchanges etc. etc. Just a willing legislature and a Governor's signature.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Too funny the media is blaming Walker for the WEA workers losing their jobs when in fact they lost their jobs because they couldn't produce a product that is competitive in the real world.

BTW how many new jobs were created? They leave that out.

The plan is a simple one and hopefully will serve as a blueprint for other 'overburdoned' States. No upfront costs to set up exchanges etc. etc. Just a willing legislature and a Governor's signature.

Amazing what happened when they actually had to compete for the business. Do you think MJS will ever have a story about the number of jobs gained at other health care insurers as a result of the increased business?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by wiphan

Amazing what happened when they actually had to compete for the business. Do you think MJS will ever have a story about the number of jobs gained at other health care insurers as a result of the increased business?

Absolutely not.

I'll go out on a limb and predict the City of Milwaukee public school system will stay with the overpriced WEA in an incest-like, perverted show of solidarity.

Damn the students and the taxpayer.

[witchdoctor]

Dang

http://www.jsonline.com/news/opinion/127339738.html

http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/...g-health-plans

[Cannon Shell]

unions....lol

http://dailycaller.com/2011/09/08/lo...uards-hostage/