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#141
12-20-2006, 10:00 AM
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I only asked as by most time charts, Magna Graduate's races comes back gigantic. You must be doing something right in my opinion, though I came up with similar relationship using mostly projections.
To be clear, I rarely if ever use projections to modify single races. I use projections to come up with the overall variant for the card. I don't like splitting races out just to make them fit prior history, I need additional evidence. 
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#142
12-20-2006, 10:16 AM
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What's the MINIMUM number of races you prefer to have a variant "group" on a specific day? For me it's 3. Once is an abberation, two is a trend, three is a defined set of correlated results. (Of course, occasionally you'll have a day like the Jim Dandy where the first 2 dirt races were an obvious split thanks to the weather.)
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#144
12-20-2006, 02:44 PM
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perhaps if you put lemons forever in a match race with seek gold, one of them would see the winners circle again. oh, and just for fun, drag colonial colony into the mix. maybe sinister minister as well!
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#145
12-20-2006, 03:31 PM
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Danzig:
I wouldnt throw Sinister Minister's name in with those others: Colonial Colony, Seek Gold and Lemons Forever. Why? Because Sinister Minister doesnt win races because of pace collapses. His effort in the Blue Grass was extraordinary. Sure it may have had something to do with the track, but he was simply the boss that day beating some fine horses like Bluegrass Cat, First Samurai and Strong Contender. He also was good before that race winning a few in some very fast times. He then ran a dud in the Derby but so too did about 3/4 of the field. He returned at Del Mar and was again not so good but it was off a layoff and thats not his favorite track. Point is, when he is good enough he wins races, regardless of what others do. Lemons Forver, Seek Gold and Colonial Colony need races to fall apart and horses like Perfect Drift to hang. Big difference.
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#146
12-20-2006, 03:35 PM
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i put him in there since he hasn't backed up his breathtaking performance in the bluegrass. probably not as similar to the others as they are to each other, but hey, one has to win--i assume he would be the one!
i know some accuse a front runner of theft when they 'steal' a race on the front end, much like the tin man in the arlington million. but imo a confirmed stone closer is as much a thief, as he is there to pick up all the pieces at the very end but only if the pace is right on and they manage to stay clean and clear.
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#147
12-20-2006, 03:48 PM
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Yes I would agree with front runners taking too much criticism when they win races like the Tin Man did. Sinister Minister would have beaten any horse alive that day. To be fair he only had 2 chances to back up his big Blue Grass win and one of them was the Derby. He went fast as expected and faced pressure. Total throwout of a race in my opinion.
Do I think he is as good as his Blue Grass? No way. But I would rank him a lot higher than those other 3 plodders you mentioned. Hopefully the Minister gets back in a race soon and another chance to validate who he is or isnt.
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