Paris if a free woman again... - Page 9

somerfrost · #**161** 06-10-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

you're right!

too often it seems a celeb is actually treated more harshly by members of the system. they want so hard to make it seem that they don't want to treat a star differently, but end up doing exactly that, by being over the top! but then...you have spector, on trial for murder, and not in jail during the trial. would you, or i, be home while on trial in that case? no.

I agree...the key is equal treatment. The rich will always have the advantage of being able to afford better lawyers with more resources (think OJ) and if the case is plastered all over the news, good lawyers will work for free...don't know how to get around that but it's not the judge's role to "punish" or "set examples" based on socio-economic status or race.

timmgirvan · #**162** 06-10-2007, 06:50 PM

There are many "cracks" in our judicial system. Adding to the mess are the recent(5yrs) sentencing guidelines that handcuff all parties in a case. Somer: you still haven't read Grishams' The Innocent Man yet, have you??

somerfrost · #**163** 06-10-2007, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

There are many "cracks" in our judicial system. Adding to the mess are the recent(5yrs) sentencing guidelines that handcuff all parties in a case. Somer: you still haven't read Grishams' The Innocent Man yet, have you??

No Tim, I'll try and get to it!

timmgirvan · #**164** 06-10-2007, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

No Tim, I'll try and get to it!

I promise it will move you and be worth the time!

ninetoone · #**165** 06-10-2007, 08:02 PM

"The system" is not 100 percent consistent. Can anyone speak to this judges actions in the past? I'm sure this isn't the most strict ruling ever given in a case like this, and I'm sure it's not the most lenient either. Either way, I don't really care...she got what she deserved & it's not the judge who was out there driving under the influence & endangering lives...so lets not put the spotlight on him....some people are just unbelievable! Let's put the judge on trial!! LOL!

timmgirvan · #**166** 06-10-2007, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone

"The system" is not 100 percent consistent. Can anyone speak to this judges actions in the past? I'm sure this isn't the most strict ruling ever given in a case like this, and I'm sure it's not the most lenient either. Either way, I don't really care...she got what she deserved & it's not the judge who was out there driving under the influence & endangering lives...so lets not put the spotlight on him....some people are just unbelievable! Let's put the judge on trial!! LOL!

921: wasn't doing that,buddy! Just trying to share some thoughts. My 9yr old daughter and some kids at a school lit some leaves on fire, the older kids blamed my daughter...and the DA charged her with a Felony..Endangering the Forests, or some such nonsense. It ended up costing me 1G to make restitution for other kids damage. It was the whole DA overkill that really pissed me off.

somerfrost · #**167** 06-10-2007, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone

"The system" is not 100 percent consistent. Can anyone speak to this judges actions in the past? I'm sure this isn't the most strict ruling ever given in a case like this, and I'm sure it's not the most lenient either. Either way, I don't really care...she got what she deserved & it's not the judge who was out there driving under the influence & endangering lives...so lets not put the spotlight on him....some people are just unbelievable! Let's put the judge on trial!! LOL!

What thread are you reading?? Certainly I have NEVER blamed the judge for Paris' behavior...she and she alone is responsible for what she does...what I and many others are saying is that this judge imposed a sentence far harsher than what Jane Sixpack would normally get, then he got into an ego-induced "pissing contest" with the sheriff using Ms Hilton as a pawn forcing him to send a marked car to bring her to court (after it was originally stated that she could attend the hearing via telephone) in handcuffs. Once there, he refused to consider any information relating to the Sheriff's decision to release her to house arrest even though it was known that there was a medical condition involved, hiding behind a legal issue when he could have easily gained access to the info BEFORE making a decision. And oh yeah, according to reports, after sending her back to jail, the judge immediately left the courtroom to attend church where he received a standing ovation! Yeah, I think the judge has questions to answer!

ninetoone · #**168** 06-10-2007, 08:30 PM

He should receive a standing ovation. And I didn't say that you were blaming the judge for Paris' behavior...I said you were putting HIM on trial, which you are.

somerfrost · #**169** 06-10-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone

He should receive a standing ovation. And I didn't say that you were blaming the judge for Paris' behavior...I said you were putting HIM on trial, which you are.

Damn right I want explanations regarding what appears to be a judge pandering to public bloodlust by treating someone unfairly...I would feel the same if it was Jane Sixpack or Timm's daughter. There is no defense for "making an example" of someone! What I'm pointing out, and you refuse to make this distinction, is that it has nothing to do with Ms Hilton's behavior...she did what she did and she alone is responsible and will deal with the consequences. That doesn't give some judge the right to pander...and the fact that folks in a church view his acts as worthy of praise is rather well...interesting!

ninetoone · #**170** 06-10-2007, 08:42 PM

Take that judge to ANY public forum with a group of people present, and he'll get the same ovation. That's what your missing. Lemme guess, now your going to blame him for the ovation he received too??? That's awesome! At least you're consistent if nothing else. Oh yeah, then you try to turn it into a church thing...priceless stuff.

somerfrost · #**171** 06-10-2007, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone

Take that judge to ANY public forum with a group of people present, and he'll get the same ovation. That's what your missing. Lemme guess, now your going to blame him for the ovation he received too??? That's awesome! At least you're consistent if nothing else. Oh yeah, then you try to turn it into a church thing...priceless stuff.

So...why do you think he got the ovation? For making an example out of a young woman? Putting a spoiled rich brat in her place? Giving her what she deserved? How very Christian...but then biblical teachings don't apply when we hate someone I guess!

ninetoone · #**172** 06-10-2007, 08:49 PM

Like I said, change it into a church thing...you are awesome. Again, take the judge to any public forum & he gets the same ovation. Why are you trying to change gears all the sudden? This from the same guy that posted in the Josh Hancock thread...again, priceless.

somerfrost · #**173** 06-10-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone

Like I said, change it into a church thing...you are awesome. Again, take the judge to any public forum & he gets the same ovation. Why are you trying to change gears all the sudden? This from the same guy that posted in the Josh Hancock thread...again, priceless.

And again, what did I say in Hancock that's different from what I say here?
I said he (Hancock) was responsible for his actions...here I'm saying Paris is responsible for her actions and THE JUDGE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR HIS! 100% consistant yet in your mind...well, I frankly have no idea. Change what into a church thing? I documented what was reported...it happened in the church...with real-life church people, I'm not making it into anything...it is what it is!

timmgirvan · #**174** 06-10-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

So...why do you think he got the ovation? For making an example out of a young woman? Putting a spoiled rich brat in her place? Giving her what she deserved? How very Christian...but then biblical teachings don't apply when we hate someone I guess!

What church thing?

somerfrost · #**175** 06-10-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

What church thing?

Timm,
Discussing the report that the judge got a standing ovation when he walked into church.

Crown@club · #**176** 06-10-2007, 08:57 PM

I love those born-again Christians.

We always can do wrong. Thats why we get born again.

(I know. Has nothing to do with current topic)

DTS presented the right verse for what happened at that church today.

timmgirvan · #**177** 06-10-2007, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Timm,
Discussing the report that the judge got a standing ovation when he walked into church.

(Sigh) That's suprising. I wish it weren't that way....people are people and everyone makes mistakes...some bigger than others. ...there, but for the Grace of God go I...or my kids.

ninetoone · #**178** 06-10-2007, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Damn right I want explanations regarding what appears to be a judge pandering to public bloodlust by treating someone unfairly...I would feel the same if it was Jane Sixpack or Timm's daughter. There is no defense for "making an example" of someone! What I'm pointing out, and you refuse to make this distinction, is that it has nothing to do with Ms Hilton's behavior...she did what she did and she alone is responsible and will deal with the consequences. That doesn't give some judge the right to pander...and the fact that folks in a church view his acts as worthy of praise is rather well...interesting!

He happenned to be in a church when he got the ovation...who cares. He would have gotten the same applause that Rags got yesterday at Belmont if they had introduced him there. Do you have issues with the church by chance???? No way, that's not at all obvious. Why else would you be trying to go there? Again, there's always one in a million that wants to put the judge on trial...at least the lawyers are getting paid for it! I guess some others just love the underdog so much that they can't see the forest for the trees!

somerfrost · #**179** 06-10-2007, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

(Sigh) That's suprising. I wish it weren't that way....people are people and everyone makes mistakes...some bigger than others. ...there, but for the Grace of God go I...or my kids.

Yeah, I know the world is filled with hate and envy but I too wish folks would realize and take more time worrying about their own soul and less time hating on others. Rejoicing at the misfortune of others never made anyone's life better.

timmgirvan · #**180** 06-10-2007, 09:05 PM

Yeah...that's the ticket!