Godolphin/Darley article

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Yeah I was just checking on the blue boys... thanks for the heads up regarding Gold Sovereign.

Look.....

http://www.timeform.com/godolphinnew...2&racenumber=6

I wonder which of the boys they will run. I doubt they will run more than two of them.

If Desert Authority is fit enough, he will take his chance. As i say, he's been working really well again.

Flashy Wings would be a danger to any horse though if she was back to somewhere near her best.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

I wonder which of the boys they will run. I doubt they will run more than two of them.

If Desert Authority is fit enough, he will take his chance. As i say, he's been working really well again.

Flashy Wings would be a danger to any horse though if she was back to somewhere near her best.

Just for fun, my guess would be they run OO or Gravitas. (Or both).

They have bigger plans for Into the Dark and Perfectperformance and Myth Kid, well... I think they'll wait to run him.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Just for fun, my guess would be they run OO or Gravitas. (Or both).

They have bigger plans for Into the Dark and Perfectperformance and Myth Kid, well... I think they'll wait to run him.

Into The Dark.....hmmmm, well he kinda has his own ideas and will probably tell them when he wants to race. Problem is, he doesn't let them know until half way through a race. and don't forget..... Desert Authority has beaten him

The trip (9furlongs) would be on the short side for Perfectperformance.

Mythical Kid has had an injury and has been very disappointing since going to Godolphin (i will say nothing, don't worry). Same can be said for Olympian Oddessy.

The fact that Desert Authority only has one entry could mean that he is running here for sure. I will try and find out tomorrow. All i was told today is that he's be running "soon"

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Into The Dark.....hmmmm, well he kinda has his own ideas and will probably tell them when he wants to race. Problem is, he doesn't let them know until half way through a race. and don't forget..... Desert Authority has beaten him

The trip (9furlongs) would be on the short side for Perfectperformance.

Mythical Kid has had an injury and has been very disappointing since going to Godolphin (i will say nothing, don't worry). Same can be said for Olympian Oddessy.

The fact that Desert Authority only has one entry could mean that he is running here for sure. I will try and find out tomorrow. All i was told today is that he's be running "soon"

Didn't realize that about DA beating him and yeah okay, good point about only one entry.

Tell me about into the Dark sometime.... I didn't follow him much but i like him.

Myth Kid... point taken.

Where's Eastern Boy??? I miss him.

If you hear any word on Caradak please let me know as I've moved on to Echo in my emails to Mr. Iffraaj.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Didn't realize that about DA beating him and yeah okay, good point about only one entry.

Tell me about into the Dark sometime.... I didn't follow him much but i like him.

Myth Kid... point taken.

Where's Eastern Boy??? I miss him.

If you hear any word on Caradak please let me know as I've moved on to Echo in my emails to Mr. Iffraaj.

Eastern Anthem will be waiting for soft ground, and given our very dry Autumn so far, we might not see him until next year. That isn't something i've heard but i know he needs soft ground, and they are probably just waiting for rain.

Into The Dark...... well, somedays he can run REALLY fast....... TOO fast and then gets tired before half way Other days, he can just be very lazy and not want to do anything. So it's the days when he is inbetween those moods that he does well

I imagine Caradak will be having a break now, but i don't know for sure.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

Eastern Anthem will be waiting for soft ground, and given our very dry Autumn so far, we might not see him until next year. That isn't something i've heard but i know he needs soft ground, and they are probably just waiting for rain.

Into The Dark...... well, somedays he can run REALLY fast....... TOO fast and then gets tired before half way Other days, he can just be very lazy and not want to do anything. So it's the days when he is inbetween those moods that he does well

I imagine Caradak will be having a break now, but i don't know for sure.

They were talking about the QEII for Caradak..... you think that's still an option or do they send Echo or Blue boy instead?

[my miss storm cat]

I'm hearing some really positive things about Bold Glance who runs on Thursday.

C'mon, Make Aussie Rules proud.

[NoChanceToDance]

The QEII is usually a very good race, i wouldn't like to say who they will send there, but they seem to like having a runner in the race.

I hope Echo would run there really.

Bold Glance, i've heard of him. I think i might have even put him in one of my seven star stables. I will ask, if i can.

[NoChanceToDance]

Well, i don't think much is expected of Bold Glance tomorrow. He runs in a very weak maiden at Pontefract and Frankie deserts him to ride another Godolphin horse, who himself doesn't look very good (but probably good enough to win this weak race).

Interesting. If they thought he was any good at all, Frankie would be up.

[my miss storm cat]

Astromonia will be retired after this race.

Bringing her back fast... hope she goes out a winner.

The field and pp's.....

Belmont Park - September 20th, 2007 - Race 8
Valor Lady S. - Grade:
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:40 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Four Year Old and Upward
Sex: Fillies and Mares
Purse: $75,000
Distance: Six Furlongs
Surface: Inner turf

1 Solarana (ARG)
Eddie Castro

2 Brazilian (KY)
Garrett K. Gomez

3 Astronomia (NZ)
Javier Castellano

4 Stormy Kiss (ARG)
Eibar Coa

5 Mohegan Sky (NY)
Cornelio H. Velasquez

6 Somethinaboutbetty (MD)
John R. Velazquez

7 Trouble Maker (MD)
Rafael Bejarano

8 Costume Designer (KY)
Jose Lezcano

PP's...
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...cher_87973.pdf

[my miss storm cat]

I think they'll send Afrashad here and hold off on Council Member.

What do you all think?

Wonder if they're still gonna send CM to the Vosburgh with Discreet Kitty. That was the plan.....

Suffolk Downs - September 22nd, 2007 - Race 9
James B. Moseley Sprint H. - Grade:
Estimated Local Post Time: 4:33 PM
Race Type: Stakes
Breed: Thoroughbred
Age Restriction: Three Year Old and Upward
Purse: $100,000
Distance: Six Furlongs
Surface: Dirt
Post Horse Name Age Sex Weight Jockey Name
1 Safe Play (KY) 5 Gelding 113 Jose Lezcano
2 Afrashad (TX) 5 Horse 114 Richard Migliore
3 Council Member (KY) 5 Horse 117 Richard Migliore
4 Roman Candles (FL) 5 Horse 112 Willie Martinez
5 Gold and Roses (NY) 5 Gelding 115 Cornelio H. Velasquez
6 Moon's Halo (FL) 4 Colt 113 Shaun Bridgmohan
7 Thatsthe Fact Jack (FL) 6 Horse 111 David D. Amiss
8 Dominguin (PER) 5 Horse 110 Clifford D. Dooley

PP's.....

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdfs/darley_88234.pdf

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

The QEII is usually a very good race, i wouldn't like to say who they will send there, but they seem to like having a runner in the race.

If they send Ramonti there where does it leave Caradak... the BC?

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

If they send Ramonti there where does it leave Caradak... the BC?

They have probably forgotten about Caradak.

He wouldn't be good enough for the BC, anyway.

[brockguy]

as good as Ramonti has been, I cant see him being quick enough for the Mile so Cadarak wouldnt cut much ice, but then again I dont even know if Ramonti is BC nominated..they might have to rely on DCat for some BC silverware.

Remember the good old days when Godolphin had the likes of Fantastic Light and Sakhee to go to war with?

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

as good as Ramonti has been, I cant see him being quick enough for the Mile so Cadarak wouldnt cut much ice, but then again I dont even know if Ramonti is BC nominated..they might have to rely on DCat for some BC silverware.

Remember the good old days when Godolphin had the likes of Fantastic Light and Sakhee to go to war with?

Back in the days when they knew how to train a smaller number of horses and Crisford kept his nose out, you mean

I know that's what you were hinting at, Brock

[brockguy]

well to be honest, they still have a horse in Discreet Cat who could turn out better than both. I think they've done a tremendous job with him as they were very good not to rush him into the Derby Trail and he showed what he could do last year with some magnificent races. He looks like quite a fragile horse and not many other organisations would have given him the time required to fulfill his potential and he would have retired / been injured prematurely. Sure things havent gone spot on this year, but there is certainly plenty of racing left for him and I hope he improves on last years figures and shows what a superstar he is.

Ill try not to comment on the other stuff as its been discussed quite a bit here already..

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by brockguy

well to be honest, they still have a horse in Discreet Cat who could turn out better than both. I think they've done a tremendous job with him as they were very good not to rush him into the Derby Trail and he showed what he could do last year with some magnificent races. He looks like quite a fragile horse and not many other organisations would have given him the time required to fulfill his potential and he would have retired / been injured prematurely. Sure things havent gone spot on this year, but there is certainly plenty of racing left for him and I hope he improves on last years figures and shows what a superstar he is.

Ill try not to comment on the other stuff as its been discussed quite a bit here already..

I'm pretty sure Discreet Cat will run in the BC sprint.

If i'm honest, i don't think he has a chance of winning any BC race. I don't think he will ever overcome that "problem", which he had in Dubai. It seems to have taken him much longer than they first thought. The BC os only just over one month away, it will be pushing it to get him in top shape for then.

You are far to civil, Brock....... are you sure you're Irish? Are you back from Oz now, fella? If so, get on the bumper horse that John Thomas rides today at Listowel.

[brockguy]

I think they really should shoot for the moon with him and run him in the Classic, but we'll sure know more next week and how he handles 6f (which I assume the Vosbourgh is?). The Sheikh already has enough indirect interests in their that I doubt he would put one of his own in to disrupte things. Plus, Godolphin were in absolutely shocking form around Dubai time and couldnt buy a win (well some havent improved), but they have looked in good form in the US this summer so Im certainly hoping for the best.

Im still in Oz at the mo. Im hoping to finally get racing here by going to Eagle Farm on Saturday, and I can assure you that Im very Irish (or at least, I can do a very good Irish accent!)

[my miss storm cat]

Check this **** out....

Maktoums' tips will be returned
Thousands intended for airport personnel who guarded planes
By Jennifer Hewlett
JHEWLETT@HERALD-LEADER.COM

MARK CORNELISON/Mark Cornelison
Mohammad bin Rashid al Maktoum. 2006 file photo by Mark Cornelison | Staff
Blue Grass Airport public safety officers will not be allowed to keep thousands of dollars in tips left for them recently for guarding planes used by members of the ruling family of Dubai, airport officials said yesterday.

At least $8,000 in cash was left as gratuities for the officers from Sheikh Mohammad bin Rashid al Maktoum, the crown prince of Dubai, and his brother, Sheikh Hamdan bin Rashid al Maktoum. That money sat in an airport safe yesterday as airport officials tried to determine how to get it back to the sheikhs.

Airport board chairman Bernie Lovely said it was his understanding that the $8,000 was in three of more than 10 envelopes given to airport personnel by representatives of the Maktoums after recent visits by the sheikhs to Central Kentucky. The three opened envelopes -- two containing $3,000 in cash each and one containing $2,000 in cash -- and the other envelopes, which have never been opened, were in the airport safe for more than a week. At one point yesterday, the envelopes were in the hands of airport attorneys, but they were put back in the safe while airport officials tried to determine what to do.

"We're supposed to contact the head of security services for the Maktoums, and that's in England," Lovely said yesterday. "We will contact them first thing in the morning."

Friday, airport public safety officers will be hearing from their bosses about why they aren't allowed to accept the money. Lovely said the airport's legal counsel advised that state law prohibits the officers from accepting gratuities while on the job at the airport.

Lovely said, as he understands the state law, the airport public safety officers could face fines ranging from $500 to $5,000, jail time and removal from office if they accepted the money; the donors could face fines ranging from $500 to $5,000 for each instance. He said he thinks the law, which is designed to prevent people from currying favor with police officers, applies to all law enforcement officers in Kentucky.

Lovely said the airport's position is that none of the officers received the money and there's no reason for anyone to believe the Maktoums and their representatives were doing "anything other than being kind."

But, he said, "It would be ultimately up to the commonwealth attorney to determine whether a crime had been committed here."

"It's unfortunate that an act of recognition for outstanding service has resulted in this story," said airport executive director Michael Gobb.

Mark Saylor, a Los Angeles-based public relations adviser for the government of Dubai, said he was unable to reach his clients for comment on the matter yesterday.

"Tipping is very much a part of Middle Eastern culture," said Jenny Sutton-Amr, executive director of the Kentucky Islamic Resource Group. She added that this is the holy month of Ramadan, which is especially a time for giving for the world's Muslims.

"It is highly encouraged to give in the month of Ramadan," she said.

"There are other people who are really rich and they give very stingy tips. I think this speaks for their (the Maktoums') generosity. ... Arab culture is very much about graciousness."

Nineteen of the airport's 20 public safety officers, including public safety chief Scott Lanter, worked a total of 138 hours in overtime from Sept. 2 to Sept. 5 and a total of 2261/2 hours in overtime from Sept. 8 to Sept. 11, to guard three United Arab Emirates planes used by the Maktoums, airport spokesman Brian Ellestad said. The overtime was mandatory, Gobb said.

"There was probably an envelope for every person that worked during the several days they (the Maktoums) were here," Lovely said. One of the opened envelopes containing $3,000 bore the name of airport operations director John Coon. An envelope containing $2,000 bore Lanter's name, according to airport officials.

The Maktoums own horse farms in Central Kentucky and often visit the area for horse sales at Keeneland. The first September visit involved a 747, the second visit involved a 747 and a 737, airport officials said.

TAC-AIR, a fixed base operator at the airport that handles accommodations for private planes, including securing hangar space, made arrangements with airport officials for the airport officers to guard the planes. Lovely said the airport sends TAC-AIR statements showing the airport's costs in such situations. He said he assumed TAC-AIR, in this case, billed or will bill the Maktoums for the security provided for their planes.

The airport also has or is to receive $3,220 in fuel flowage fees and an additional $1,000 for its portion of ground handling fees from the Maktoums' visits this month, according to airport officials.

Airport officials said that years ago, private security firms did employ off-duty airport public safety officers to guard the Maktoums' planes, and those officers received gratuities for that work. Those gratuities were legal because the officers were working for private entities, they said.

Gobb instituted a policy under which airport officers were not allowed to work for private contractors on airport property after he assumed his position at the airport about 10 years ago, airport officials said.

Airport officials said they think this year is the first year airport public safety officers have guarded the Maktoums' and other private planes since the policy was put in place. For the past nine years or so, guards hired by private security firms watched over the planes, they said.

Lovely said he understood that TAC-AIR asked the airport to provide security for the Maktoums' planes.

"They (the Maktoums) are certainly good users of our airfield," he said, "and we were pleased to be able to provide these services for them."

[NoChanceToDance]

There is too much 'red tape' in the world we live in. What is the problem with those staff being able to keep that money. It's not as if any illegal actions have taken place.

Rules are there to be broken, that's my view, anyway.

I feel very sorry for the airport staff.