How good is Big Brown? - Page 9

The Indomitable DrugS · #**161** 03-30-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He hasnt been seen since the Super Bowl

We need to get the ESPN racing analyst a similar rap song to this great one in his honor...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXivi7uqtTc

Cajungator26 · #**162** 03-30-2008, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dylbert

Big Brown may come up four feet short of the Kentucky Derby -- as in his four hooves. Bad feet have stopped many horses through the years.

Scat Daddy being last year's version.

#**163** 03-30-2008, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What did you expect? Him to be sitting on a beach chair, sipping a Frank's Energy drink?

Sometimes Dutrows horses seem in extraordinary good
shape and catch their wind very quickly.

He was breathing very hard.
He was not prepared for a good ole gallop out
like some of Dutrows others. Reminded of me of
my own dry heaving after excessive exertion after a race.
Ya just dont want to sit there. My wife has this excessive paranioa
about cooling horses down properly and she kind of got mad.

Cannon Shell · #**164** 03-30-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Sometimes Dutrows horses seem in extraordinary good
shape and catch their wind very quickly.

He was breathing very hard.
He was not prepared for a good ole gallop out
like some of Dutrows others.

You actually monitor the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow horses?

Payson Dave · #**165** 03-30-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You actually monitor the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow horses?

I laughed...

Cajungator26 · #**166** 03-30-2008, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah it was bad feet.

He had quarter cracks in his feet...

Scat Daddy would blow the socks off most of these horses in this year's crop.

TheSpyder · #**167** 03-30-2008, 09:28 PM

Yea, Kent D. looked very tired after the race and not sure he can handle the Derby distance. After the interview I swear he was limping as he walked away.

Spyder

Cajungator26 · #**168** 03-30-2008, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

My wife has this excessive paranioa
about cooling horses down properly and she kind of got mad.

It bothers me too, but I can't remember seeing a racehorse (especially one that ran lights out like him) NOT blow hard afterwards.

Cannon Shell · #**169** 03-30-2008, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave

I laughed...

More interesting would be the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow. He keeps winning like this he will be borrowing suits from Hank Goldberg

Riot · #**170** 03-30-2008, 09:31 PM

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i just read the write up on t'bred times and they say that his stamina was never depleted. but what about his stretch run? was he weaving like an irishman on st paddys day because he was green? or was he rubber legged because he ran out of gas?

I just watched the replay (again - free on Bloodhorse TCM page, guys) - he didn't weave at all.

He came off the turn 3 wide - and he drove down the center of the track. He came out about 1 path more to a left whip, then the jock took him down to the rail, where he stayed.

Smooth Air is still impressive. More so. Bloodhorse says both are definitely in the Derby. Feet allegedly fine on Big Brown.

Riot · #**171** 03-30-2008, 09:33 PM

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I was trackside and did not see anything done to the track.

It was harrowed (I can tell from the video) - do you know if it was watered?

Riot · #**172** 03-30-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

More interesting would be the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow. He keeps winning like this he will be borrowing suits from Hank Goldberg

Good lord .....

Payson Dave · #**173** 03-30-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

More interesting would be the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow. He keeps winning like this he will be borrowing suits from Hank Goldberg

Has he (RD) gotten considerably larger in the past few years??? .....perhaps an overexposure to steroids??

Cajungator26 · #**174** 03-30-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mumtaz

Good lord .....

Yeah, it would be tough to remove the sweaty pit stains from Hank's suits.

#**175** 03-30-2008, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You actually monitor the post race breathing patterns of Dutrow horses?

You missed the thread.
Dutrow had some other horses mentioned
by some other posters that looked very good winning
implying that this was per usual... that they could run
all day.

#**176** 03-30-2008, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

It bothers me too, but I can't remember seeing a racehorse (especially one that ran lights out like him) NOT blow hard afterwards.

I have seen plenty of horses coming home looking like drunken
sailors and not breathing like that. did you watch the interview
while the horse had to sit there? He needed to move. but most
of the animals I have seen up close, are not what we would call
superior runners. And I have seen interview done live on the horses
with the jock where the horses looked like they could do it all again.

Big brown did not look like he was ready for another ala Ernie Banks.

Cajungator26 · #**177** 03-30-2008, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

I have seen plenty of horses coming home looking like drunken
sailors and not breathing like that. did you watch the interview
while the horse had to sit there? He needed to move.

Yeah, I watched the video... he was blowing hard like most horses do after they run lights out. Did he need to be walked out and cooled down? I think the answer to that should be an obvious YES.

Danzig · #**178** 03-30-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah it was bad feet.

bad being latin for slow.

Danzig · #**179** 03-30-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yeah, I watched the video... he was blowing hard like most horses do after they run lights out. Did he need to be walked out and cooled down? I think the answer to that should be an obvious YES.

i always roll my eyes a bit at the 'he wouldn't blow out a match' line after a hard race.

#**180** 03-30-2008, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Yeah, I watched the video... he was blowing hard like most horses do after they run lights out. Did he need to be walked out and cooled down? I think the answer to that should be an obvious YES.

I have seen horses run lights at longer distances
that walk around proudly shaking the head still galloping.
Thats all I am saying. He obviously ran very hard. The winning
bravado that some horses display after blowing a field away
was not there. So it was not an effortless
journey by a vastly superior horse. Thats what I mean.
He won by open lengths, he was not chased down.
So it is important to me that it was not a piece of
cake effort for him even though he decimated the field.

Had Big Brown galloped out fully shaking his head asking
for more I would have been totally amazed.

When I saw those fractions coming up I was certain
he was dead meat. I was so wrong.