8/7 (DMR): Clement L. Hirsch S. (G1)

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think they go for the record wins streak and then retire her. no classic, no trip, finish in california and send her to the broodmare barn. if they are unwilling to take on colts this year on poly, why would they want to on dirt? she loves it out west, loves the poly. she's won a classic, no need for another.

That's an interesting theory but it's totally wrong. They have one goal right now and that goal is to win the BC Classic this year. There is no chance they retire her unless she gets hurt. Every move they make with her is designed to be what they think is the best path to the Classic.

By the way, they think she's better on dirt.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Then in the end the voters for HOY punisher her for her lame campaigns. Because of The Moss's ridiculously conservative/boring campaign she will once again lose HOY honors. What ever happened to ZZZZZZZZZZZZZenyatta's connections planning a different 2010 campaign so fans at different racetracks could see her? I guess that tough race at OP against that monster field was enough.

Hopefully The Moss's will be content yet again to win Older Female Horse and nothing more. If she even wins that.

It's a big "if" but if she wins the BC Classic this year, she's got to win HOY. Who else is going to get it?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's a big "if" but if she wins the BC Classic this year, she's got to win HOY. Who else is going to get it?

The Baffert love affair never ceases to amaze. LAL maybe

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It's a big "if" but if she wins the BC Classic this year, she's got to win HOY. Who else is going to get it?

If she wins that joke of a race at SA coming up and The Classic then yes.....she will win HOY. But let's say she ran at Saratoga in The PE and Won vs a real field (Rachel and Pletcher's horse). Then goes to Belmont in The Beldame and beats another quality field....then goes to The BC and runs 2nd to some longshot in The Classic (obviously not Blame). She most likely would be named HOY. Well...by keeping her in So-Cal and running vs horrible horses The Moss's have made sure that scenario won't happen.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by CSC

Paid workout, she wins by a measured length with a solid 87 Beyer. Of note Smith who won a rare race yesterday was sitting on 1 win for the Delmar meet thus far. That might be her biggest challenge.

Well won by a neck, but the Beyer is definitely going to be a very good prediction. The race was pathetically slow.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

the Beyer is definitely going to be a very good prediction.

a prediction of what?

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Then in the end the voters for HOY punisher her for her lame campaigns. Because of The Moss's ridiculously conservative/boring campaign she will once again lose HOY honors. What ever happened to ZZZZZZZZZZZZZenyatta's connections planning a different 2010 campaign so fans at different racetracks could see her? I guess that tough race at OP against that monster field was enough.

Hopefully The Moss's will be content yet again to win Older Female Horse and nothing more. If she even wins that.

IF she can pull off a couple more wins (prep race at SA and the BCC), we're talkin' immortality.


And that will drive the haters absolutely craZZZZZZZZZZZy...

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Was this race shown live on the major networks or ESPN?

No?

I wonder why. Maybe it's because true sports fans don't fall for exhibitions for filthy rich cowards to show off their "SUPER HORSE." They'd rather watch poker or bowling. At least in those sports you don't see the stars ducking each other on a regular basis.

It was fitting SHEriffs was wearing pink today.

Now continue fawning over this horse who barely beat nothing.

AWESOME!!!!

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

agreed but I think she will run in the Distaff

I sure hope the connections of Goldikova is keeping an eye. Forget the mile, and find out if and where Zenyatta is running on BC day.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

I sure hope the connections of Goldikova is keeping an eye. Forget the mile, and find out if and where Zenyatta is running on BC day.

I love her but shes a turf mare. That ain't changing.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I love her but shes a turf mare. That ain't changing.

I know. It's only a wish.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

a prediction of what?

CSC said a Beyer of 87. After I watched the race this is what I was thinking and saw the post. So I figure I congratulate CSC on making the 87 Beyer prediction.

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

CSC said a Beyer of 87. After I watched the race this is what I was thinking and saw the post. So I figure I congratulate CSC on making the 87 Beyer prediction.

whoopty doo

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I constantly hear s-h-i-t about a lot of owners. I constantly hear that this person is an a-hole and that person is a prick, etc. But I've never heard anything bad about the Mosses. They are extremely popular. Everyone likes them.

I did hear one kind of funny thing about Moss. I know a guy who grew up with Moss in New York. When they were both 19 years old, they were pretty much broke. They had no money and they were working for peanuts. Anyway, he told me that Moss does not like talking about those days at all. It's a real sore subject with him. He is worth several hundred million dollars now and I guess he doesn't like to be reminded about the days when he was broke.

Yeah, you know, I used to like the Moss stable horses until last year. Not that I don't like the horses, but I find it hard to route for them since all the bullshidding and misdirection on Zenyatta.

Delicate Vine was awesome. I was a fan of Ruhlman too, to name a couple.

Then all this nonsense about not running her in the Gold Cup last year was so completely retarded, they were obviously making up lies to justify their lack of fortitude.

How about the lies about her being retired? Clearly anyone with an ounce of common sense could tell she wasn't being worked out for the joy of working out. Did you really believe she was never to race again, until they came out and said she was now 'unretired'???

How about their promise to be more daring with her this year?

Or their classic "Rocky Mountain" excuse?

Or their hemming and hawing about how they really were not that likely to run in todays race?

There's alot more.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That's an interesting theory but it's totally wrong. They have one goal right now and that goal is to win the BC Classic this year. There is no chance they retire her unless she gets hurt. Every move they make with her is designed to be what they think is the best path to the Classic.

By the way, they think she's better on dirt.

My goal is to win a Nobel Peace prize this year for having uncommon sense. Ain't gonna happen though.

If they do retire her prior to the BC, they will say she's hurt.

By the way, they say they think she's better on dirt. There's a big difference between saying it and thinking it. Which they don't.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My goal is to win a Nobel Peace prize this year for having uncommon sense. Ain't gonna happen though.

If they do retire her prior to the BC, they will say she's hurt.

By the way, they say they think she's better on dirt. There's a big difference between saying it and thinking it. Which they don't.

I should correct my earlier post. They actually have 3 goals right now. First, they want to win HOY. Second, they want to win the BC Classic again. Third, they want to reamin undefeated. Every move they make is designed to accomplish these 3 goals. If they win the BC Classic, they kill two birds with one stone. They win the race and they win HOY.

When you consider that those are their 3 goals right now, it wouldn't make much sense for them to look for a tough race right now. They don't need to. They will win HOY if they win the BC Classic. If they don't win the BC Classic, they won't win HOY. Running in a tough race right now doesn't accomplish anything for them and it could hurt one of their goals. If she loses, it kills their goal of staying undefeated.

They will definitely run in the BC Classic because they desperately want to win HOY.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I should correct my earlier post. They actually have 3 goals right now. First, they want to win HOY. Second, they want to win the BC Classic again. Third, they want to reamin undefeated.

It's about just trying to stay undefeated and having her cranked up to run one whole big race this year.

Coming to Saratoga and trying to beat Rachel Alexandra on dirt - the surface which most American horses are bred best for - at the Classic distance of 10fs - that would have been awesome.

They know she is more likely to finish ahead of RA in the Classic because horses like Quality Road and Rail Trip won't let her loaf ... so, it's basically a full of year of yawners leading into a half court heave at a dirt BC Classic in which she will have her best possible chance at placing in front of RA as some moral victory if she doesn't win the race outright.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It's about just trying to stay undefeated and having her cranked up to run one whole big race this year.

Coming to Saratoga and trying to beat Rachel Alexandra on dirt - the surface which most American horses are bred best for - at the Classic distance of 10fs - that would have been awesome.

They know she is more likely to finish ahead of RA in the Classic because horses like Quality Road and Rail Trip won't let her loaf ... so, it's basically a full of year of yawners leading into a half court heave at a dirt BC Classic in which she will have her best possible chance at placing in front of RA as some moral victory if she doesn't win the race outright.

Perfectly stated Doug.

Originally Posted by Revidere

He was 2/5 in the M/L!!!!! All of a sudden Blame is Kelso, Forego rolled into one.

Trust me, off those slow fractions, it was embarrasing for Quality road to lose.
Must have been the braid.

This is further proof that you can be literally brain dead and still be a photographer.

[hockey2315]

94 Beyer.