Zenyatta - Page 9

The Bid · #**161** 11-07-2010, 10:50 AM

Then you need to watch the race again horseofcourse. Try the overhead

The Bid · #**162** 11-07-2010, 10:52 AM

Yeah he steadied, and it was probably 7 not 5

Princess Doreen · #**163** 11-07-2010, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Mike is making no excuses. He said its my fault.

That's an excuse - also saying the dirt in her face. I'm wondering why he's showing up at the interivew with his helmet and goggles - it's to prove she got dirt in her face?!~

Someone on another topic, and I can't find it, said Mike did nothing to warm up Zenyatta before the race. Too much PR and maybe not enough preparation? I think she should have done some of her works at CD instead of shipping her in a couple days before the race.

There are no excuses. She was valiant in defeat, Mike rode a very good ride (in my opinion). She lost. It's as simple as that. Shouda, woulda, coulda, and ifs just don't cut it.

Dahoss · #**164** 11-07-2010, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Yeah he steadied, and it was probably 7 not 5

Make it 15 while you are at it.

The Bid · #**165** 11-07-2010, 10:56 AM

Get a clue bud

RockHardTen1985 · #**166** 11-07-2010, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

That's an excuse - also saying the dirt in her face. I'm wondering why he's showing up at the interivew with his helmet and goggles - it's to prove she got dirt in her face?!~

Someone on another topic, and I can't find it, said Mike did nothing to warm up Zenyatta before the race. Too much PR and maybe not enough preparation? I think she should have done some of her works at CD instead of shipping her in a couple days before the race.

There are no excuses. She was valiant in defeat, Mike rode a very good ride (in my opinion). She lost. It's as simple as that. Shouda, woulda, coulda, and ifs just don't cut it.

Can you please add Zenyatta and Rock Hard Joey to your list of horses you love in your avatar.... It would make me feel much better.

ateamstupid · #**167** 11-07-2010, 10:58 AM

Did I really just read someone say that Zenyatta had 7 lengths of trouble?

Princess Doreen · #**168** 11-07-2010, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Can you please add Zenyatta and Rock Hard Joey to your list of horses you love in your avatar.... It would make me feel much better.

How about if I put you on IGNORE. Wassamatter, can't deal with a difference of opinion?

RockHardTen1985 · #**169** 11-07-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Did I really just read someone say that Zenyatta had 7 lengths of trouble?

Hoss said 15...

RockHardTen1985 · #**170** 11-07-2010, 10:59 AM

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How about if I put you on IGNORE. Wassamatter, can't deal with a difference of opinion?

It was just an idea... A good one, but clearly you disagree.

CSC · #**171** 11-07-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Yeah he steadied, and it was probably 7 not 5

What cost her was the start more than anything, she almost lost contact with the field to I guess not being used to getting kickback in her face from racing on synth's almost her entire career, the slight steady was more of an inconvenience that cost her momentum. When the difference is a head, she was simply not good enough to overcome it to a horse as good as Blame at CD, one thing we can be certain of from yesterday's race, Blame and Zenyatta were 3+ better than the rest of the field. Great race by both, no disgrace winning it or finishing 2nd, I keep hearing this was a brutal field but in all due respect this was the best dirt fields we have had in the past 2 years.

Danzig · #**172** 11-07-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Hoss said 15...

he was being facetious.

and yes, ateam, the bid says zenyatta had 7 lengths of trouble.

Dahoss · #**173** 11-07-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

Get a clue bud

Take your own advice guy.

ateamstupid · #**174** 11-07-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Great race by both, no disgrace winning it or finishing 2nd, I keep hearing this was a brutal field but in all due respect this was one of the best dirt fields in the past 2 years.

That really isn't saying much.

Danzig · #**175** 11-07-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

What cost her was the start more than anything, she almost lost contact with the field to I guess not being used to getting kickback in her face from racing on synth's almost her entire career, the slight steady was more of an imconvenience that cost her momentum. When the difference is a head, she was simply not good enough to overcome it to a horse of Blame at CD, one thing we can be certain of from yesterday's race, Blame and Zenyatta were 3+ better than the rest of the field. Great race by both, no disgrace winning it or finishing 2nd, I keep hearing this was a brutal field but in all due respect this was one of the best dirt fields in the past 2 years.

she didn't get much kick back, she wasn't close enough to experience it for much of the race.

a couple of horses were decent, but some of them were distance limited. the bulk of the field sucked.

Princess Doreen · #**176** 11-07-2010, 11:04 AM

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It was just an idea... A good one, but clearly you disagree.

Yup, I disagree. I've never been a Zenyatta fan because of her woosie owners and trainer. But, her performance yesterday was probably the best in her career- even in defeat. It doesn't make me a goo goo zentard to say that.

The Bid · #**177** 11-07-2010, 11:06 AM

You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

CSC · #**178** 11-07-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

That really isn't saying much.

I'm really trying to be rational with the discussion here with you, so please help me out here because I really want to understand this. But why wasn't this brought up with the discussion regarding Rachel's win in the Woodward field when all of a sudden it matters this year? I think anyone would agree this BC field was far better than the one she faced in the Woodward.

MaTH716 · #**179** 11-07-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bid

You dont have a clue what you are talking about. Why dont you just read and learn something you jerkoff. She lost contact early. There is no horse running today thats in a photo w/ a horse like blame after that alone. Not to mention steading her when he was just getting her best run. Anytime you are beat a nose, there is some point in the race you could have done things differently and changed the outcome. SHe was visually the best horse and I dont see how anybody can argue that. Blame had a great ride, perfect trip and ran a wonderful race. He wasn't the best horse, but he will be, and should be HOY.

Yeah, but to say that she was 5-7 lengths better is ridiculous.

The Bid · #**180** 11-07-2010, 11:12 AM

Math, how many do you think she spotted them off mild pace. Honestly. She was 2-1 to blame the last 200 yards. Horses aren't supposed to come to you after the kind of trip she recieved. If anything that really debunks the figure guys who said shes too slow. She simply goes after whatever is in front of her. There is no horse running that makes a race of that after that opening quarter.