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Danzig · #**161** 02-13-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

What bill number is this? HR 258 as I found it is...

H.R. 258: To require the Office of Management and Budget to prepare a crosscut budget for restoration...
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To require the Office of Management and Budget to prepare a crosscut budget for restoration activities in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, to require the Environmental Protection Agency to develop and implement an adaptive management plan, and for other purposes.

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Sponsor: Rep. Rob Wittman [R-VA1](no cosponsors)
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Status: Introduced Jan 7, 2011
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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-258

i think it maybe be 358. but yeah, let's worry about the resolution number, rather than the subject.

Nascar1966 · #**162** 02-13-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Blaming a Republican congressman for introducing a bill is make believe?

Did I say introducing a bill is make believe? You only want to see whatever you want to. You speak so highly of the Democrats all the time. Are they a perfect political party? We dont need to mention Charlie Rangel. You mention the Republican who did the honorable thing and resigned. The last time I looked good old Charlie was still serving in DC. What happened to Pelosi's bs talk about ethics? I guess it is ok for Rangel not to pay taxes for all these years.

Riot · #**163** 02-13-2011, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

What bill number is this? HR 258 as I found it is..

Facesmack - my error. Try HR 358 Google: "Pitts Abortion 2011" for articles on it.

Edit: and also, this bill retains the horrible term forcible rape - rather than just rape. I guess if you are not bruised and battered, it's not rape.

That term was what caused the one bill that has already been pulled, to have been pulled.

(there have been three separate bills entered into this congress about abortion so far)

Danzig · #**164** 02-13-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

nascar does it most of the time. nascar is always slamming the democrats. I guess nascars beloved republicans are a perfect political party.

now, is that a more palatable post? i've said to riot that i thought she wasn't evenhanded, that she often seems to be cheerleading one party while critical of the other. you're the same way! funny that you accuse her of doing that, and you do the same-only for the other side. in other words, pot meet kettle! but, like i've read and thought was spot on, and said on here before: how great the sin when someone else commits it. now, tell me how you're able to discuss each issue, rather than always take one party's side. now, don't really try, as that's a rhetorical question.

Riot · #**165** 02-13-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

it's a crappy law, who cares who put it up? another resolution pushed forth that does nothing to grow the economy, or build jobs... it's garbage like that which will assure that the reps majority in the house won't last past the next election. they take their chance to do something worthwhile, and produce a bs resolution like that. bravo.

Precisely. The GOP can't only do "culture wars". They will get their chance on the budget this week!

Riot · #**166** 02-13-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Riot does it most of the time. Riot is always slamming the Republicans. I guess Riot's beloved Democrats are a perfect political party.

Yup. I do indeed see alot in the Republicans within the past few years to slam. Yes, indeed. Forty years, I'm watching them move so far right they are about to tip the party right off the cliff.

When Cheney gets heckled at CPAC, you know it's changed.

The Democrats are not "my beloved perfect political party" - they are not even "my party", but yes, indeed, I've been happier with what the Dems have offered. In 2008, I looked at McCain-Palin, and I looked at Obama-Biden, and I voted Obama without hesitation. Damn glad I did so, too. Obama is doing just fine. And at this point, I'll do it again.

Riot · #**167** 02-13-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Did I say introducing a bill is make believe? You only want to see whatever you want to. You speak so highly of the Democrats all the time. Are they a perfect political party? We dont need to mention Charlie Rangel. You mention the Republican who did the honorable thing and resigned. The last time I looked good old Charlie was still serving in DC. What happened to Pelosi's bs talk about ethics? I guess it is ok for Rangel not to pay taxes for all these years.

I never spoke highly of Rangel's breaches of ethics. Did I?

Here's hoping you can lose all that anger, Nascar. I'm sure it's not good for your blood pressure.

Nascar1966 · #**168** 02-13-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

I never spoke highly of Rangel's breaches of ethics. Did I?

Just asking of your opinion. I never said you approved of it.

Nascar1966 · #**169** 02-13-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

now, is that a more palatable post? i've said to riot that i thought she wasn't evenhanded, that she often seems to be cheerleading one party while critical of the other. you're the same way! funny that you accuse her of doing that, and you do the same-only for the other side. in other words, pot meet kettle! but, like i've read and thought was spot on, and said on here before: how great the sin when someone else commits it. now, tell me how you're able to discuss each issue, rather than always take one party's side. now, don't really try, as that's a rhetorical question.

When did I post that sherlock?

Danzig · #**170** 02-13-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

When did I post that sherlock?

you didn't. i took what you wrote about riot, and changed the appropriate names to you and your party. now, do you understand? you calling out someone for talking good only about one side, and only attacking one side is downright hilarious-as well as hypocritical. you do that every day! every post. you attack everything done by obama and the dems as being a bad thing, and everything done by the reps as a good thing. it's not! just like your attempt to bash obama over pell grants. not one person has agreed with you thus far. your attempt at attacking him in that respect failed miserably, as his points are well made.

Nascar1966 · #**171** 02-13-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

you didn't. i took what you wrote about riot, and changed the appropriate names to you and your party. now, do you understand? you calling out someone for talking good only about one side, and only attacking one side is downright hilarious-as well as hypocritical. you do that every day! every post. you attack everything done by obama and the dems as being a bad thing, and everything done by the reps as a good thing. it's not! just like your attempt to bash obama over pell grants. not one person has agreed with you thus far. your attempt at attacking him in that respect failed miserably, as his points are well made.

Just curious about it. People are entitled to thier opinions. The Pell Grant thread I was trying to gauge other people's view on it. Whether in agreement or disagreement. You don't feel that Riot is always attacking the Republican Party?

Danzig · #**172** 02-13-2011, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Just curious about it. People are entitled to thier opinions. The Pell Grant thread I was trying to gauge other people's view on it. Whether in agreement or disagreement. You don't feel that Riot is always attacking the Republican Party?

does it matter? sometimes i agree with her, sometimes i don't. sometimes i think she gives dems far too much credit. sometimes i think reps not enough.
but, ask yourself that same question. are you always attacking dems? if so, why? surely you don't think one party has all the answers, and the other none? if you don't think she's right, how can you be right by always opposing? think about it. some dems sometimes vote with reps, and vice versa. that should tell you that you can't just lump them all together.

btw, sometimes they need attacking. same for the dems. they come up with some pretty sorry, stupid crap. for gods sakes, the reps had sarah palin as their vp nominee. can't get much dumber than that.

Nascar1966 · #**173** 02-13-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

does it matter? sometimes i agree with her, sometimes i don't. sometimes i think she gives dems far too much credit. sometimes i think reps not enough.
but, ask yourself that same question. are you always attacking dems? if so, why? surely you don't think one party has all the answers, and the other none? if you don't think she's right, how can you be right by always opposing? think about it. some dems sometimes vote with reps, and vice versa. that should tell you that you can't just lump them all together.

Very true what you just said. My opinion is that Riot feels that the Dems can do no wrong. Riot brought about the person who resigned over some pics and was a Republican. Yet no mention is made of Charlie Rangel who comitted a far more serious offense and is still serving.

Riot · #**174** 02-13-2011, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Very true what you just said. My opinion is that Riot feels that the Dems can do no wrong. Riot brought about the person who resigned over some pics and was a Republican. Yet no mention is made of Charlie Rangel who comitted a far more serious offense and is still serving.

Strange you completely ignore my answer to you, in favor of what you'd prefer to think in spite of what I say.

Nascar1966 · #**175** 02-13-2011, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Strange you completely ignore my answer to you, in favor of what you'd prefer to think in spite of what I say.

Ever watch the movie A Few Good Men? You play the Colonel. Remember what Tom Cruise told the Colonel? Did you not bring up the man who resigned over the pics of bad taste?

Danzig · #**176** 02-13-2011, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Very true what you just said. My opinion is that Riot feels that the Dems can do no wrong. Riot brought about the person who resigned over some pics and was a Republican. Yet no mention is made of Charlie Rangel who comitted a far more serious offense and is still serving.

i'd imagine the rep resigned because of pressure from his constituents, which probably can't be said about ol charlie. and as long as those pols self-police, they won't be knocking each other out over ethics. the one who votes rangel out might be the next on the chopping block.

Riot · #**177** 02-13-2011, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Ever watch the movie A Few Good Men? You play the Colonel. Remember what Tom Cruise told the Colonel? Did you not bring up the man who resigned over the pics of bad taste?

Yes, in passing - and with admiration for his actions accepting responsibility. And I also said some bad things about Rangel, if I recall.

Do I attack the Republicans all the time, and the Dems rarely? YES, I DO! After years of financially contributing, political action walking neighborhoods, supporting the party and candidates, going to the country party meetings - YES, I DO! The current incarnation of the Republican party is an utter disappointment and laughingstock to me. Do I think the Dems perfect? Nope. Do I embrace a progressive agenda? Hardly. Did I vote Obama? YES, I DID! Gladly!

Not that I think that what I actually say and do, will affect what you say I say and do.

Nascar1966 · #**178** 02-13-2011, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, in passing - and with admiration for his actions accepting responsibility. And I also said some bad things about Rangel, if I recall.

Do I attack the Republicans all the time, and the Dems rarely? YES, I DO! After years of financially contributing, political action walking neighborhoods, supporting the party and candidates, going to the country party meetings - YES, I DO! The current incarnation of the Republican party is an utter disappointment and laughingstock to me. Do I think the Dems perfect? Nope. Do I embrace a progressive agenda? Hardly. Did I vote Obama? YES, I DID! Gladly!

Not that I think that what I actually say and do, will affect what you say I say and do.

You want to attack the Republicans all the time, expect me to continue attacking your beloved money spending Democrats. You dont think the Dems are a disappointment and laughing stock? Im about to fall out of my chair from laughing very hard. I gladly voted for McCain.

Riot · #**179** 02-13-2011, 07:26 PM

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You want to attack the Republicans all the time, expect me to continue attacking your beloved money spending Democrats.

Feel free. It's your right. Expect me to continue to point out how historically and factually it has been the Republicans, not the Dems, who are "money spending" over the past 60 years.

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You dont think the Dems are a disappointment and laughing stock?

Not compared to the current GOP, I don't. I didn't think I was going to vote Democratic in the last presidential election until I saw the GOP Convention. That was the end of the GOP for me, until they earn their way back.

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Im about to fall out of my chair from laughing very hard. I gladly voted for McCain.

Don't get hurt. But I'll be happy to pay for your free government health care. You also voted for Palin.

Danzig · #**180** 02-13-2011, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You want to attack the Republicans all the time, expect me to continue attacking your beloved money spending Democrats. You dont think the Dems are a disappointment and laughing stock? Im about to fall out of my chair from laughing very hard. I gladly voted for McCain.

so....you deride her behavior...but choose to answer in kind. interesting. does that really seem the best course?