Mitt Romney calls half of America freeloaders

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

Seems to me that your agenda here has nothing to do with debating politics. You already know PD is not me and I find it hard to believe that you really think I could keep up the charade that you have manufactured here. It also seems to me that you are trying to bait PD on a trivial point. If you don't like his views on politics, why don't you debate him instead of insulting him?

Pointman. You just posted this but don't show up as currently logged on users yet PainD does... Who the fuk are you kidding. As a matter of fact I have Never seen both of you logged in at the same time. Of course there are ways to simulate it and I am sure that is what we will see in the future but why hasn't it happened yet.. Sad Dude cause I thought you were a decent sort.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser

You are counting the fake internet economy bubble that Clinton was lucky enough to not have it burst after he left office? The little guys were the one left holding the bag while people like Mark Cuban own sports teams.

There is no proof that raising taxers produces higher revenue (in fact the opposite occurs) or helps the poor. There is no proof that raising taxes on the producers of the economy and having redistributed by a bunch of elitist, clueless jackasses who are putting their theories to use that they learned in the fake world of academia works.

You are calling yourself a libertarian with this post??????

Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.

So we might be talking to Sybil. Big f.ucking deal. The important thing is people who want higher taxes actually give extra.

Do it. Or just give all your money away. Be all you can be. Your shepherd is right. Listen to him and give all you can because your shepherd is above the law.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

Pointman. You just posted this but don't show up as currently logged on users yet PainD does... Who the fuk are you kidding.

I am kidding no one. The mods know that PD is not me, so let's stop playing games. I am sorry you don't like PD's views but to continue to come after me for merely introducing the website to others is silly.

Please tell me why I would need to do what you accuse me of?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pointman

I am kidding no one. The mods know that PD is not me, so let's stop playing games. I am sorry you don't like PD's views but to continue to come after me for merely introducing the website to others is silly.

Please tell me why I would need to do what you accuse me of?

Because you want to go full on ape-**** on Riot and not look like an azzhole ? Maybe?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.

And why does everyone Anti Romney have to be accused of wanting to raise taxes. I am not for raising taxes.

RUde you said lowering taxes is giving money away. You're talking as if the government is far more important than the individual.

The collective, as the Marxist hipster douches say. We don't owe this government a f.ucking thing. You don't want to pay taxes to a government that gave immunity to the people that caused this mess in the first place.

The government will take the extra tax revenue and spend more. You are basically an enabler.

Seriously wtf are you all thinking? And to think those of you were starting to wake up.

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by jms62

Pointman. You just posted this but don't show up as currently logged on users yet PainD does... Who the fuk are you kidding. As a matter of fact I have Never seen both of you logged in at the same time. Of course there are ways to simulate it and I am sure that is what we will see in the future but why hasn't it happened yet.. Sad Dude cause I thought you were a decent sort.

Wow. They have different user settings. You cracked the case...

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Yes exactly.

Thanks again for proving my point.

It's real rocket science, so follow me:

When the economy is bustling along, tax revenues go up.
When the economy sucks, tax revenues go down.

It's a cyclical thing.

there is absolutely NOTHING that a president can do to change that, not by borrowing money to "stimulate" the economy, and certainly not by borrowing money to give away to the ultra-rich in the hopes that maybe, just maybe, they might throw us middle class peasants a crumb and create a job with it (which history has proven again and again over the last 30 years does not work either).

Nothing a President can do, by borrowing money, to fix this. Get it?

It get fixed by:

* getting out of unprovoked, unsubstantiated wars and uninvited occupation of sovereign nations.
* closing every single US military installation abroad unless by doing so creates a clear and present danger to our nation or our allies (ie. we don't need three military installation in Germany, they can pretty well fend for themselves.)
* legalizing and taxing the shi.t out of drugs and ending this 1 trillion+ dollar, 40 year old, failure
* legalizing and taxing all forms of gambling including sports gambling in all 50 states

there is just 4 ideas that would have this deficit cut in half in a year.

And that is straight up Libertarian, my friend.

I agree with cyclical part. I disagree about tax revenue running along the cyclical part without it having anything to do with the tax rate.

I agree with all the other things you are saying.

One is a hidden user and the other is not! Totally the same person! Lets report them both to DHS.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Wow. They have different user settings. You cracked the case...

So what is the setting to not show up on currently logged on users?

[pointman]

Originally Posted by jms62

Because you want to go full on ape-**** on Riot and not look like an azzhole ? Maybe?

That is ridiculous, I have never backed off anyone that has come at me. I think it is pretty clear that I don't need anyone to help me deal with Riot. You are barking up the wrong tree. I have no agenda against you or Hoss, but it seems like you guys want to pick me apart because I introduced someone to the website that you don't like and I think that is silly.

Anyone in the NY area that wants to meet both PD and myself can do so by asking and decide for themselves, a Saturday or Sunday at Belmont is fine with me.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by jms62

Pointman. You just posted this but don't show up as currently logged on users yet PainD does... Who the fuk are you kidding. As a matter of fact I have Never seen both of you logged in at the same time. Of course there are ways to simulate it and I am sure that is what we will see in the future but why hasn't it happened yet.. Sad Dude cause I thought you were a decent sort.

look now conspiracy theorist, in fact since I have been logged on all morning and Pointman just posted then obviously we are both logged on at the same time. What's matter JMS, you thought Point Man was a good guy until you decided that you didn't like his politics? do you think Riot is a good person with all of her nasty insults and bullying?

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by jms62

So what is the setting to not show up on currently logged on users?

Invisible mode.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Invisible mode.

Cool! It's like a cloaking device.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

RUde you said lowering taxes is giving money away. You're talking as if the government is far more important than the individual.

The collective, as the Marxist hipster douches say. We don't owe this government a f.ucking thing. You don't want to pay taxes to a government that gave immunity to the people that caused this mess in the first place.

The government will take the extra tax revenue and spend more. You are basically an enabler.

Seriously wtf are you all thinking? And to think those of you were starting to wake up.

Coach, not at all. I just can't take this insipid notion that borrowing more money to further lower taxes on the wealthy, after we've been doing just that nearly every year for the past 12 years, is going to some how cure all the problems in this country.

C'est la vie

You've got a population of 10% critical thinkers, 10% far fringe lunatic extremists, and 80% sheep. It's just a matter of time.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by pointman

Seems to me that your agenda here has nothing to do with debating politics. You already know PD is not me and I find it hard to believe that you really think I could keep up the charade that you have manufactured here. It also seems to me that you are trying to bait PD on a trivial point because you don't like the views. If you don't like his views on politics, why don't you debate him instead of insulting him?

I tried debating him (you) and he's disingenuous and would rather deflect than discuss anything other than "Obama sucks."

He said all freeloaders are voting for Obama. Well, obviously that isn't true, but he has said many times he stands by it. When I have tried to ask him how he knows, he ignored it. When I showed him info that would lead to his assumption being untrue, he deflected and then talked around it.

And really...you're the last person that should be talking about an agenda.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by jms62

And why does everyone Anti Romney have to be accused of wanting to raise taxes. I am not for raising taxes.

Exactly.

It's so simple it's stupid, but the sheep and the fringe freaks refuse to see it.

If one week I purchase something at the store for $5.00,
The following week, I get a 1.00 off coupon and pay 4.00,
The third week I don't have coupon and have to pay 5.00 again - Did the store raise the price??!!

The tax rates were what they were before the Bush plan was put in place to artificially "lower" them by borrowing money to pay for them.

They expired and should not be extended because we don't have the money for them, in fact we are 16 Trillion in debt, in part because of them.

Is that a call to raise them, or did the coupon simply expire??!!

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Exactly.

It's so simple it's stupid, but the sheep and the fringe freaks refuse to see it.

If one week I purchase something at the store for $5.00,
The following week, I get a 1.00 off coupon and pay 4.00,
The third week I don't have coupon and have to pay 5.00 again - Did the store raise the price??!!

The tax rates were what they were before the Bush plan was put in place to artificially "lower" them by borrowing money to pay for them.

They expired and should not be extended because we don't have the money for them, in fact we are 16 Trillion in debt, in part because of them.

Is that a call to raise them, or did the coupon simply expire??!!

Raising the tax rates won't even come close to closing the deficit, that is not where the problem is.

[Thepaindispenser]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I tried debating him (you) and he's disingenuous and would rather deflect than discuss anything other than "Obama sucks."

He said all freeloaders are voting for Obama. Well, obviously that isn't true, but he has said many times he stands by it. When I have tried to ask him how he knows, he ignored it. When I showed him info that would lead to his assumption being untrue, he deflected and then talked around it.

And really...you're the last person that should be talking about an agenda.

You didn't try debating me, you kept coming at me false information and some stupid notion that I said all unemployed people would vote for Obama, which I never said. I even corrected myself to say that most freeloaders would vote for Obama (obviously a few will vote for Obama) and then you started attacking personally. If that is your way of debating then you need a lot of polish.