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Old 11-08-2006, 08:45 PM
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That's why people who use PM to bust on people are cowards, if you can't say it out in the open and be ready to defend the comments, calling someone something on PM is cowardly, even more cowardly than busting on someone on the message board, if you can actually get more cowardly than that...


Here's my PM to Dahoss:

Let it go, we all know the real story, it's very evident...
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Old 11-08-2006, 08:56 PM
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That's why people who use PM to bust on people are cowards, if you can't say it out in the open and be ready to defend the comments, calling someone something on PM is cowardly, even more cowardly than busting on someone on the message board, if you can actually get more cowardly than that...


Here's my PM to Dahoss:

Let it go, we all know the real story, it's very evident...
Busting on people PERIOD on the internet is laughable. My theory is that if you wouldn't do it in real life - which 99% of the people on here would not - then don't do it on the internet. It makes you look like a complete p us sy.

Personal attacks on people via the internet only reaffirms how insecure somebody is in real life and nothing more....it can be done without the consiquence of somebody knocking your f-ing block off - thats why you have losers who actually practice in it....

They may as well say "I'm a pu s sy" when attacking or busting on somebody over the internet.....
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:03 PM
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Why does there have to be a right or wrong regarding this? I saw the race unfold in a different manner, and we all know that "opinions are like a$$holes... everybody's got one."

...and no one thinks theirs stinks!
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:04 PM
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I'm a pu s sy.
I knew that....the sky is blue too
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Old 11-08-2006, 09:06 PM
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Honestly Wilson I am the exact same on here as I am in real life. I've never had my block knocked off though, but it sounds fun. And I have never said anything about you personally, because I don't know you personally. So stop whining. Again this whole thing spun, because you refuse to eat crow. The people that talked up Perfect Drift did. I admitted I was totally wrong about Invasor. Why can't you. See the way I look at it. People on the net that make BOLD predictions, only do so because they are on the net, and know there is no accountability. This is what you are.
I never said you made personal attacks about me......read it again
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:46 PM
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Wow! Just got in and did a re-cap of this entire thread. What drama and comedy. there were at least half a dozen genuine knee-slappers in here.
Thats to all for providing this entertainment.
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:48 PM
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Wow! Just got in and did a re-cap of this entire thread. What drama and comedy. there were at least half a dozen genuine knee-slappers in here.
Thats to all for providing this entertainment.
We do what we can and its all for you
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:48 PM
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Wow! Just got in and did a re-cap of this entire thread. What drama and comedy. there were at least half a dozen genuine knee-slappers in here.
Thats to all for providing this entertainment.

And I paid $10.50 to see Borat.
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:53 PM
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And I paid $10.50 to see Borat.
did you? what was your take?
I'm thinking to see it this w/e.
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:57 PM
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did you? what was your take?
I'm thinking to see it this w/e.

Not to digress from the seriousness of this thread, but...


It was very funny. I love Da Ali G Show and he's clearly best when putting people on. I'm not really a fan of gross out type humor and this movie has some but overall I laughed pretty much the whole way through. It's probably a little long ( though I think it's less than 90 minutes ) but it's a big chuckle.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:03 AM
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Not to digress from the seriousness of this thread, but...


It was very funny. I love Da Ali G Show and he's clearly best when putting people on. I'm not really a fan of gross out type humor and this movie has some but overall I laughed pretty much the whole way through. It's probably a little long ( though I think it's less than 90 minutes ) but it's a big chuckle.
thanks for the re-cap. i think i'm going to like it too because i also really like the D' Ali G show.

ok then, sorry for the OT stuff.
this thread may now return to its previous serious tone.
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Old 11-09-2006, 12:30 AM
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Invasor accomplished far more "on the track" than Ghostzapper and St Liam. If you are looking at track results only (no sheets etc etc) Then Invasor has been better than those two I mentioned.
You honestly believe this? Wow..

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I don't think that Bernardini and Ghostzapper should even be compared since it's unfair to both... what was done by Bernie as a 3 year old definitely topped out GZ's 3 year old season, and what was done as a 4 year old for GZ defnitely topped out Bernie's 4 year old season, SINCE HE DIDN'T HAVE ONE! LMAO...
BINGO, Cajun..

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Old 11-09-2006, 12:43 AM
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Everybody dance now!
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:10 AM
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I can't believe I just read this. I really can't. There can't be people out there who honestly believe this. It's impossible.



BINGO, Cajun..
How can you think differently. Lets recap here. Now we are only comparing on the track. We arent comparing times, sheet numbers, etc etc.

Ghostzapper
4 Grade I wins (Classic, Vosburgh, Woodward, Metropolitan) He has 9 wins from 11 starts for earnings of $3.4mm. Horse of the year in 2004

Invasor
4 Grade I wins ( Classic, Whitney, Suburban, Pimlico Special) To me these are more prestigous races than what Zapper won. Also, Invasor has 9 wins from 10 starts with earnings of $3.6mm.

Invasor will be crowned HOY of the year for the 2nd time.

So Invasor has won more money and has a better win % and has won more prestigious Grade I races. In addition, he is still racing. Now looking at these two it is pretty even. But, the edge goes to Invasor based "on the track."
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:26 AM
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How can you think differently. Lets recap here. Now we are only comparing on the track. We arent comparing times, sheet numbers, etc etc.

Ghostzapper
4 Grade I wins (Classic, Vosburgh, Woodward, Metropolitan) He has 9 wins from 11 starts for earnings of $3.4mm. Horse of the year in 2004

Invasor
4 Grade I wins ( Classic, Whitney, Suburban, Pimlico Special) To me these are more prestigous races than what Zapper won. Also, Invasor has 9 wins from 10 starts with earnings of $3.6mm.

Invasor will be crowned HOY of the year for the 2nd time.

So Invasor has won more money and has a better win % and has won more prestigious Grade I races. In addition, he is still racing. Now looking at these two it is pretty even. But, the edge goes to Invasor based "on the track."
I'm tired but I have to disagree with this. I like Invasor, I really do, but your comparisons are not terrific. First, saying Invasor won more prestigious races is sketchy at best. They both won the Classic, OK, the Whitney and Woodward are comparable names, the Met is bigger than the Suburban and the Vosburgh is bigger than the Pimlico Special. Also, the varying distances of these Grade 1s is a major feather in Ghostzapper's cap. Now, let's compare the competition. Woodward-Whitney. Ghostzapper defeated the following year's HOY and Classic winner Saint Liam by a head after being carried out more than ten paths in the stretch with the rest of the field WAY back. Invasor ran a terrific race in the Whitney, not getting a perfect trip ( stumbling early and moving too soon into a hot pace ) and held off Sun King by a head. Now, I love Sun King, I dream of him, he is my personal God of racing, but he aint no Saint Liam....and it pains me deeply to say that, write that and think that. Plus, it was a few lengths back to West Virginia and some Mark Hennig bum that routinely runs last in every stake race he is misplaced in.

I'm tired...can I go to bed and finish this tomorrow....or do you just want to admit you were a little hasty in this one?

By the way, Ghostzapper's speed figures were almost universally superior.

I like Invasor a lot...I really do. Ghostzapper would have chuckled at him....if he ever even noticed him.

By the way, have you recently watched a replay of Ghostzapper's Vosburgh? If not, please do, as I promise you that it is most enjoyable. Honestly, it may be one of the five most scintilating performances of any of our lifetimes. It was a thing of beauty. He aint even in the picture when the field turns for home...and he wins by almost seven.

Now I'm getting weepy.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:30 AM
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I am not comparing times or competition--just simply what they did on the track. The numbers do not lie. A better win % and more money earned and he is still racing. That is all there is to it. Do I think Zapper would beat Invasor--HECK YES. But if you are only comparing on the track, then Invasor has done more.
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Old 11-09-2006, 07:06 AM
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I cant believe that Oracle has not picked up on my questioning of his fav trainer Albatrani !!!
Whats to question? I agree with most everything you say about anything.
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Old 11-09-2006, 01:14 PM
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Whats to question? I agree with most everything you say about anything.
Just thought you might enjoy a enquiry into how a horse who is good as Bernardini could get anything out of works so slow, considering your position of Senor Albatrani.
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:10 PM
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I am not comparing times or competition--just simply what they did on the track. The numbers do not lie. A better win % and more money earned and he is still racing. That is all there is to it. Do I think Zapper would beat Invasor--HECK YES. But if you are only comparing on the track, then Invasor has done more.
Yeah, earnings and win %. Those are the only factors that determine who's accomplished more. You gotta be kidding.

Did Invasor ever win a G1 sprint against elders closing from 12 lengths back? Did he win the most prestigious mile race in the country on a blistering pace? Did he wire an insanely fast Classic field?

You're being very narrow in your scope on accomplishments. In terms of graded races won, yes, Invasor has accomplished as much as Ghostzapper. But that's not all that goes into "accomplishments on the track." Ghostzapper won G1 races from 6 1/2 furlongs to 10 furlongs, both closing from the clouds and wire-to-wire. He beat a better Classic field than Invasor did and in general, faced much faster horses.

And Saint Liam, as much as I wasn't a fan, won pretty much every important dirt race in America, and ran narrow seconds in many others. To say Invasor has accomplished "far more" than either Ghostzapper or Saint Liam is nuts.
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Old 11-09-2006, 05:52 PM
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all i needed from that pack mule scat diddy was 3rd.......for a nice tri.
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