Derby Trail Racing Partnership

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Owning 1/20th of a horse is fun? Maybe 150-200 a month, plus the buy in is in your budget for this Fun.
Linda Rice has a barn full of these types, but I only play her horses on the turf, at 5-1/2 furlongs

lol. What's your point?

People's ideas of fun are different than yours perhaps.

Personally, scouring the entries looking for a L Rice runner going 5.5 f on the grass is not my idea of a good time. But knock your socks off! And good luck!

I'd gladly give a few hundred to 1) make some contacts/friends in the game 2) have a vested interest other than a wager 3) support the game and 4) maybe, just maybe, win an allowance without losing the farm.

MisterB, you're kind of picking a bone with most people on this board because a lot of us have aspirations of ownership in the future but we're not financially capable of taking that leap yet. A partnership (especially under the closed end arrangement we have with Chuck) is an excellent opportunity for folks like us to participate in ownership and learn more than we otherwise could.

I think you take for granted the "burnout" that most first-time owners have when getting into the game because they deplete their resources before they know enough to even be "good" at it. So, based on this, why doesn't it make sense to throw a few hundred at a partnership rather than tens of thousands going out on your own to start???

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

lol. What's your point?

People's ideas of fun are different than yours perhaps.

Personally, scouring the entries looking for a L Rice runner going 5.5 f on the grass is not my idea of a good time. But knock your socks off! And good luck!

LOL
I don't look for 5.5's. If they show up, I look. Point is, linda has a allot of partnerships, and allot of losers too.
They all do

Good luck

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

LOL
I don't look for 5.5's. If they show up, I look. Point is, linda has a allot of partnerships, and allot of losers too.
They all do

Good luck

You're missing the point....which is " to each his ( or her ) own ".

There are many discussions going on in this place, why you have chosen this one to lift your leg upon is baffling, unless of course you are just trolling.

I can't believe you would be doing that....and on your first day posting no less!

Is she incentivized by half the purses?? I mean, that would make ME want to win a little more than 10% would.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by jman5581

I'd gladly give a few hundred to 1) make some contacts/friends in the game 2) have a vested interest other than a wager 3) support the game and 4) maybe, just maybe, win an allowance without losing the farm.

MisterB, you're kind of picking a bone with most people on this board because a lot of us have aspirations of ownership in the future but we're not financially capable of taking that leap yet. A partnership (especially under the closed end arrangement we have with Chuck) is an excellent opportunity for folks like us to participate in ownership and learn more than we otherwise could.

I think you take for granted the "burnout" that most first-time owners have when getting into the game because they deplete their resources before they know enough to even be "good" at it. So, based on this, why doesn't it make sense to throw a few hundred at a partnership rather than tens of thousands going out on your own to start???

It makes perfect sence for those who do not have the funds to be a full time owner. Heck, they even give you a owners permit. What kind of horse are you trying to buy? Like I said, Chuck is a great trainer, but this isn't about the trainer, it's about owning a piece of the pie. Many good trianers are in this game of partnering. It's the new wave, just look around, West Point is a good example too.

[MisterB]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You're missing the point....which is " to each his ( or her ) own ".

There are many discussions going on in this place, why you have chosen this one to lift your leg upon is baffling, unless of course you are just trolling.

I can't believe you would be doing that....and on your first day posting no less!

Did I say something wrong, by voicing my opinion, and also some facts? I choose this one because it's stuck on top, and I thought it was ok to talk about it. Since you made it clear, don't talk on this thread, I won't anymore.

Gee wiz Andy

We know, we know, we know.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Ah, monday mornings in the middle of winter...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Did I say something wrong, by voicing my opinion, and also some facts? I choose this one because it's stuck on top, and I thought it was ok to talk about it. Since you made it clear, don't talk on this thread, I won't anymore.

Gee wiz Andy

Baloney.

Don't raise your hands as if to say " poor me ". You know exactly what you are doing. If you know enough around here to know who I am then you also know EXACTLY what you are doing here.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Did I say something wrong, by voicing my opinion, and also some facts? I choose this one because it's stuck on top, and I thought it was ok to talk about it. Since you made it clear, don't talk on this thread, I won't anymore.

Gee wiz Andy

You seem to be off to a bit of a rough start around here...if you think that the DT partnership is a bad idea you are free to have that opinion...but is it really necessary to belabor the point?
it isn't really very polite to show up and sh*t on your host's carpet the first day he lets you into his house.

[CapperZeke]

Aw, shucks Andy. Opie's sorry.

[jman5581]

It's not the destination, it's the ride

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by MisterB

I like Chuck, but not when he leaves Kentucky. Also, Partnerships may be fun, but they end up as money suckers. Just another way to pay the bills. Why do you think Most trainers do not own horses? Money suckers. Owning horses is not an investment, it's a hobby and love for the wealthy.

Well good.. you totally are in agreement then with the philosophy and approach being taken by DT Stables.. An non-investment, hobby opportunity for people who are "wealthy" collectively via a one time buy-in of $500. No other expense...

We are endeavoring to bring people into racing virtually risk-free, past the initial contribution. We are utilizing the generosity of Chuck Simon to absorb the day rate to eliminate the monthly fee partnership scenario. Not to impune other partnerships, but this isn't Soveriegn, Solaris, Karakorum or Castle Village...

It's a group of people that want to experience the game without the spectre of monthly expenses. We will be getting together at racetracks where Chuck (FG, CD, TP, SAR, etc..) competes for fun, and hopefully watch our horse(s) run.. It is a unique opportunity for most of the people who have gotten involved, and their excitement at being a part of it won't be detered by brickbat wielders and naysayers.

[Kasept]

And as an aside, in regards to your non-so-veiled insult, take a look at Chuck's numbers "outside Kentucky"... 30% W/70% ITM at FG right now..

[CapperZeke]

YEA!!! Just what Steve said. Steve, what the hell is a brickbat??

[MisterB]

Good luck to all involved Steve. This is not the normal partner. I hope Charlie wins 100% of the time.

Sorry I stepped on your parade alittle.

Check your numbers on Saratoga, all the CD shippers the last few years have sunk, not just Charlie. It appears your talking about a 2nd, or 3rd division type horses. I only really watch Division1 types.

Good luck folks

[AeWingnut]

I hope Mister B isn't some twisted reference to MrB

I don't think he doesn't understands this partnership. If it weren't for the generousity of Chuck and Steve, I wouldn't be able to do his.

I know I won't make any money. It was the expenses that stopped me from even thinking about trying this.

btw

Chuck you're not going to buy any of Linda Rice's horses are ya. I hear they are horrible

in case the typed word doesn't convey it
I am only teasing, Chuck.

I am getting excited. I told all of my friends and they are excited for me.
This is a big deal to me. To be able to open up a racing form or program and see your horse listed under your stable. To hear the call of the race with your horse's name (hopefully mentioned more often later in the race) "and at the wire it's.."

I just don't know if the poor horse can carry all of us across the finish line. I'll start dieting today

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I am getting excited. I told all of my friends and they are excited for me.
This is a big deal to me. To be able to open up a racing form or program and see your horse listed under your stable. To hear the call of the race with your horse's name (hopefully mentioned more often later in the race) "and at the wire it's.."

I just don't know if the poor horse can carry all of us across the finish line. I'll start dieting today

exactly...I am not a wealthy man...most likely never will be and have 4 young kids and this is probably my only shot to get involved. I could care less if the horse or horses finishes up the track every race. I can still say...."this is my horse!" even if only 1 or 2 percent of it!! What Steve and Chuck are doing is fantastic, even if it does fail in the end. As someone says...you never know!

[engbloomj]

I know I am late in responding to this posting. But, I was wondering if this partnership is still available. Is there a minimum number of shares? Will there be meeting to discuss the details and explain how a partnership works? Has there been any progress in establishing this partnership?

Thanks John