Flower Alley to stand for $25,000 at Three Chimneys

#1 10-11-2006, 01:49 PM

....just announced, which if they have already decided his stud fee it tells me that hes done - or at least 90% done. If I had to take a gamble, I'd say that they will tentatively train him up to the G1 Clark in late November at CD for an encore in hopes that none of the serious BC Classic horses come back for that race on three or four weeks rest and they'll catch a weak field.

Pletcher won is last year with a less-than-stellar Magna Graduate, and he knows it could be a cheap way to pad another Gr. 1 on Flower Alley's resume. Any G1 at CD is tough, so it won't be a walkover, but I bet they figure if they can get him sound enough in the next 45 days to be close to the best he can offer, they give he'll have a decent shot at least at hitting the board. However, if things don't work out perfectly, I bet they just pull the plug on him and retire him. There is no advantage at retiring a horse right now if his ailments are minor enough to get him one more quality start and I think that has to be their goal at this point.

randallscott35 · #2 10-11-2006, 01:50 PM

Can't see him being worth 25k per. Maybe that's the market these days.

philcski · #3 10-11-2006, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Can't see him being worth 25k per. Maybe that's the market these days.

Travers winner with a reasonable pedigree? Definitely the market.
Not saying I'D pay it though.

#4 10-11-2006, 01:59 PM

He is done. The stud fee is set at $25k. One more race isnt going to make a difference.

#5 10-11-2006, 02:11 PM

I wouldn't breed to him just because I think there are better opprotunities in that range....that is fairly priced considering the buzz over his sire Distorted Humor, who will shock some of you when his stud fee announced...

Put it this way, I called WinStar last week about doing a foal-share deal to him with my best mare and they aren't doing any foal shares this year and the guy said that they are increasing his fee to $200,000 - $250,000 depending on how his progeny close out the year...

His fee has significantly sky-rocketed each year the last 4 years....amazing...

Cajungator26 · #6 10-11-2006, 02:16 PM

I'd pass on Flower Alley at that price...

Not a huge fan of double dosing Mr. P.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #7 10-11-2006, 02:17 PM

Seems a bit pricey. I'd have thought 15k or perhaps 20, but it is Three Chimneys...

kentuckyrosesinmay · #8 10-11-2006, 02:20 PM

He definitely wouldn't be my choice to breed to in that price range if I had a quality mare.

Downthestretch55 · #9 10-11-2006, 02:35 PM

I don't think I'd breed to him either...but he sure gave us some thrills!
http://www.barbaralivingston.com/gal...ntrack/Travers

sumitas · #10 10-11-2006, 04:25 PM

mares devoid of Mr Prospector and Northern Dancer lines are suited to him.

Cajungator26 · #11 10-11-2006, 04:26 PM

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mares devoid of Mr Prospector and Northern Dancer lines are suited to him.

Harder and harder to find nowadays though, aren't they?

sumitas · #12 10-11-2006, 04:38 PM

you are correct. so he'll get many mares crossing with the Mr P and ND. the horses may run ok for a while but the breeding does not improve the breed.

#13 10-11-2006, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

you are correct. so he'll get many mares crossing with the Mr P and ND. the horses may run ok for a while but the breeding does not improve the breed.

agreed.....

Danzig · #14 10-11-2006, 07:52 PM

anyone who wants distorted humor, but can't afford him, will be going after his best son to date. 10x less the stud fee, he'll fill his book. he did very well at three--it's not like very many give a rats behind what a horse does at four.

SniperSB23 · #15 10-11-2006, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

anyone who wants distorted humor, but can't afford him, will be going after his best son to date. 10x less the stud fee, he'll fill his book. he did very well at three--it's not like very many give a rats behind what a horse does at four.

Third best son to date. Best intact son to date.

#16 10-11-2006, 10:11 PM

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agreed.....

Explain. What does improve the breed mean?

#17 10-11-2006, 10:16 PM

And all I gotta say if I wanted to try and get a good race horse....

Id have a bunch of mares that had been good ON the track. A mare that had a certain male in the background would not be a priority. I would hunt down running females. Preferably those had been in a good number of tough races and lost due to circumstance, not ability.

philcski · #18 10-11-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Third best son to date. Best intact son to date.

HAHAHA! best son with two goolies attached.

sumitas · #19 10-11-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

Explain. What does improve the breed mean?

there are allready tons of horses around with ND and Mr P., Raise A Native, tripling them, quadrupling them, or more leads to even more unsoundness, albeit you may get some speed. FA has 5 Native Dancers too. Hasn't stopped breeders from going to Songandaprayer and his 3 Raise A Natives but unfortunately the soundness just isn't there.

Cajungator26 · #20 10-11-2006, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas

there are allready tons of horses around with ND and Mr P., Raise A Native, tripling them, quadrupling them, or more leads to even more unsoundness, albeit you may get some speed. FA has 5 Native Dancers too. Hasn't stopped breeders from going to Songandaprayer and his 3 Raise A Natives but unfortunately the soundness just isn't there.

Amen to that... it's a shame too.