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Old 08-12-2013, 04:37 AM
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Default 8/17 (AP): Million, Bev D, Secretariat (G1's), St. Leger, Hatoof

1st (Post time 12:45) Straight Line S.

1 Mile (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $65,000

1 Next Speaker Napravnik R 117 L
2 Street Spice Albarado R J 117 L
3 Mongolian Saturday Montalvo C 117 L
4 Positively Stevens G L 117 L
5 Fordubai Castro E 117 L
6 O T B Bob Desormeaux K J 117 L
7 Cameo Appearance Geroux F 117 L
8 Ground Transport Rosario J 117 L
9 Carson's Crown Prado E S 117 L
10 Believe in Kitten Hill C 117 L

A-Coupled: Street Spice and Fordubai



6th (3:21) Hatoof S.

About 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Some Temper Graham J 118 L
2 Sandsarita Prado E S 116 L
3 Bold Kitten Hill C 121 L
4 I'm Already Sexy Geroux F 116
5 My Option Perez E E 121 L
6 Belle Chaussee Spencer J P 116 Blk-On L
7 Dance With Kitten Thornton T 116 L
8 Wifeonthewarpath Esquivel E 116 L
9 Miss Scout Castro E 116 L
10 Liz Pendens Rosario J 116 L



7th (3:52) American St. Leger S.

1 11/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Dark Cove Rosario J 126 L
2 Ojos de Hielo Hamilton Q 119 L
3 Code of Conduct Geroux F 119 L
4 Dandino (GB) Moore R L 119 FTL
5 Suntracer Castro E 119 L
6 Ioya Bigtime Torres F C 119 L
7 Najjaar Graham J 119 L
8 Wigmore Hall (IRE) Spencer J P 119 L



8th (4:23) Secretariat S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Golden Jason Felix J E 119 Blk-On L
2 Visiyani (FR) Lemaire C 119
3 Rydilluc Prado E S 123 L
4 First Cornerstone (IRE) Hayes C 119 FTL
5 Admiral Kitten Napravnik R 119 L
6 Bethel Geroux F 119 L
7 Yeager Moore R L 119 FTL
8 Balthazar Albarado R J 119 L
9 Jack Milton Rosario J 121 L
10 Stormy Len Solis A 119 L
11 Amen Kitten Baird E T 119 L
12 Draw Two Stevens G L 119 L
13 Tattenham Desormeaux K J 119 L



9th (5:02) Beverly D. S. (G1)

1 3/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 La Tia Desormeaux K J 123 L
2 Duntle (IRE) Lordan W 123
3 Solid Appeal Rosario J 123 L
4 Dank (GB) Moore R L 123 FTL
5 Gifted Girl (IRE) Queally T P 123 FTL
6 Marketing Mix Stevens G L 123 L
7 Starformer Prado E S 123 L
8 Artemus Kitten Napravnik R 123 L
9 Ausus Graham J 123 L



10th (5:44) Arlington Million S. (G1)

1 1/4 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $1,000,000

1 Real Solution Garcia Alan 126 L
2 Finnegans Wake Albarado R J 126 L
3 Hunter's Light (IRE) Moore R L 126 FTL
4 Nates Mineshaft Baird E T 126 L
5 Temeraine Castro E 126 L
6 Side Glance (GB) Spencer J P 126 FTL
7 Indy Point (ARG) Stevens G L 126 L
8 Mull of Killough (IRE) O'Brien J P 126
9 Guest of Honour (IRE) Harley M 126 FTL
10 The Apache (SAF) Soumillon C 126
11 Little Mike Rosario J 126 L
12 Rahystrada Napravnik R 126 L
13 Grandeur (IRE) Buick W 126



11th (6:26) Hatoof S.

About 1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Always Kitten Napravnik R 116 L
2 Street of Gold Desormeaux K J 116 L
3 Eden Prairie Hill C 116 L
4 Great Red Beauty Solis A 116 L
5 Every Way Graham J 116 L
6 Dance Team Vigil N 116 L
7 I O Ireland Castro E 116 L
8 Alette Sanchez J 116 L
9 Frivolous Rosario J 116 L
10 Gold Edge Geroux F 116 L
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Old 08-12-2013, 02:43 PM
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Looking like phenomenal betting races. Can't wait.
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Old 08-12-2013, 06:22 PM
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Looking like phenomenal betting races. Can't wait.
If you have a minute could you please explain the whole Turkish situation with The Apache?

I was looking at the SA site and am not understanding why they won't let him compete at Veliefendi just because he had the vaccine.

Figured if anyone here knew it would be you. Thanks.

(Can't wait for Million day).
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Old 08-13-2013, 06:47 PM
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Optimizer not going in Million (Expect 13); Harrods Creek & Cavalero pass on St. Leger (Now 8)
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Old 08-14-2013, 10:22 AM
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If you have a minute could you please explain the whole Turkish situation with The Apache?

I was looking at the SA site and am not understanding why they won't let him compete at Veliefendi just because he had the vaccine.

Figured if anyone here knew it would be you. Thanks.

(Can't wait for Million day).
Basically, Turkey has said anyone vaccinated against African Horse Sickness is not permitted to race in their country. Kinda bogus as they allowed Musir to do it a few years back, but no one seemed to notice cause he was an Aussie-bred, not SAF.

African Horse Sickness is the result of the current export quarantine in SAF which requires horses to do three weeks in Cape Town, then three months at a 1/4-mile oval in Mauritius, before exporting to the EU for a month, then on to a final destination. It's five months of limited training if you send a horse out of SAF to continue its career elsewhere.

Think it's possible he ends up in the Woodbine Mile, now, especially as Wise Dan is likely to pass it.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:04 PM
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Basically, Turkey has said anyone vaccinated against African Horse Sickness is not permitted to race in their country. Kinda bogus as they allowed Musir to do it a few years back, but no one seemed to notice cause he was an Aussie-bred, not SAF.

African Horse Sickness is the result of the current export quarantine in SAF which requires horses to do three weeks in Cape Town, then three months at a 1/4-mile oval in Mauritius, before exporting to the EU for a month, then on to a final destination. It's five months of limited training if you send a horse out of SAF to continue its career elsewhere.

Think it's possible he ends up in the Woodbine Mile, now, especially as Wise Dan is likely to pass it.
Thank you very much. I couldn't find an explanation so appreciate it and yes, that would be nice to see him go for the Woodbine Mile.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:49 PM
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Arlington Million

1 Real Solution
2 Finnegans Wake
3 Hunter’s Light
4 Nates Mineshaft
5 Temeraine
6 Side Glance
7 Indy Point
8 Mull of Killough
9 Guest of Honour
10 The Apache
11 Little Mike
12 Rahystrada
13 Grandeur
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:28 PM
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I don't know if I have seen the Secretariat ever be a better betting race.

One of the stronger Million Cards I have seen (stakes-wise)
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Old 08-15-2013, 11:43 AM
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I glanced at the races as I printed them last night. Can't wait to dig deeper. This is going to be one fun card to handicap.
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I glanced at the races as I printed them last night. Can't wait to dig deeper. This is going to be one fun card to handicap.
Wish I had left races 3,4 and 5 out, or at least they had them listed them as the first three races of the day?

Nonetheless it's one of the deepest million cards I can remember and agree this will be awesome sorting out.
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Old 08-15-2013, 01:58 PM
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Wish I had left races 3,4 and 5 out, or at least they had them listed them as the first three races of the day?

Nonetheless it's one of the deepest million cards I can remember and agree this will be awesome sorting out.
Even the good cuts of beef have a little fat on them sometimes....
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:45 PM
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Dark Cove is scratched.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:25 PM
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Good luck to Rahystrada and to his connections.

(I do love The Apache, BUT...) I think Little Mike wins this. I will, however, put my favorite old man in the top spot as well.
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Already a huge day for the Ramseys!
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Old 08-17-2013, 06:27 PM
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The telecast on WGN is really enjoyable.
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Old 08-17-2013, 06:54 PM
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Ugh, The Apache held on, but what a race!

Hunter's Light had no where to run and then nearly went to his nose.
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DQ...

thoughts?
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I need another look at it, but from what I can see The Apache did come over twice. I think it was good call.
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Good call, and I bet the DQ'd horse, he clearly fouled him while tiring late.
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Good call, and I bet the DQ'd horse, he clearly fouled him while tiring late.
I thought it was fair too. I have a friend who went on a rampage when The Apache was taken down.
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