Weekend Stakes Beyers

[Kasept]

SA Malibu S (G1): Shared Belief 99 (Candy Ride-ARG) J. Hollendorfer/M. Smith
SA La Brea S (G1): Sam's Sister 87 (Brother Derek) J. Hollendorfer/E. Trujillo
SA Mathis Bros. Mile S (G2): Alert Bay 92 (City Zip) B. Wright/T. Baze
SA 2yo MSW (6.5f): Mick's Miracle 88 (Wildcat Heir) P. D'Amato/J. Talamo
SA Robert J Frankel S (G3): Lady Pimpernel-GB 87 (Sir Percy-GB) C. Gaines/V. Espinoza
SA Midnight Lute S (G3): Distinctiv Passion 96 (With Distinction) J. Bonde/M. Smith
SA Eddie Logan S: Bolo 88 (Temple City) C. Gaines/M. Smith
SA Daytona S (G3): Bettys Bambino 93 (Unusual Heat) P. Eurton/M. Garcia
SA Kalookan Queen S : Harlington's Rose 80 (Harlington) S. Knapp/J. Talamo

LRL Maryland Juvenile Futurity: Ghost Bay 68 (Ghostzapper) L. Murray/F. Boyce
LRL MD Juvenile Filly Ch. S: Spotted Heart 55 (Lion Hearted) M. Shuman/S. Russell

AQU Gravesend S: Salutos Amigos 108 (Salute the Sarge) D. Jacobson/I. Ortiz
AQU New York Stallion Series S: Chasing Bubbles 73 (Posse) K. McPeek/I. Rodriguez
AQU New York Stallion Series S: The Lewis Dinner 75 (Posse) R. Rodriguez/M. Franco

GP Mr. Prospector S (G3): Speechify 102 (Harlan's Holiday) R. Nicks/P. Lopez
GP La Prevoyante H (G3): Irish Mission 92 (Giant's Causeway) C. Clement/J. Velazquez
GP W. L. McKnight H (G3): Divine Oath 97 (Broken Vow) T. Pletcher J. Castellano

TAM Pasco S: Catalina Red 88 (Munnings) C. Stewart/D. Centeno
TAM Gasparilla S: Irish Jasper 76 (First Defence) D. Ryan/V. Lebron

SUN Red Hedeman Mile S: Liberty Lover -- (Diabolical) J. Nall/R. Eikleberry
SUN Albert Dominguez Memorial H: Proceed -- (Desert God) J. Marr/A. Juarez

FG Pago Hop S: Kiss to Remember 85 (Big Brown) T. Amoss/J. Graham
FG Woodchopper S: Rise Up 84 (Rockport Harbor) T. Amoss/B. Hernandez

TUP Lost in the Fog Juvenile S: Outdated 79 (Old Fashioned) R. Diodoro/J. Carreno
TUP Arizona Juvenile Fillies S: Freakin Amazing 71 (Zensational) R. Diodoro/G. Franco

[Seattleallstar]

What the Beyer for that Pletcher maiden for Repole at GP?

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Why do horses suck so bad now?

These figures would hardly win maiden races not too long ago.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

What the Beyer for that Pletcher maiden for Repole at GP?

79

[Seattleallstar]

Thanks, at least it looked impressive

[Easy Goer Otis]

Just leafing through the 2013 American Racing Manual and lining these figs up up with past winners and Beyer pars:

MALIBU: Beyer Index 104
Shared Belief 99 is lowest Beyer since Johnny Eves 94 in 2007.

LA BREA: Beyer Index 98
Only 3 horses in 25 years have run Beyers in the 80s. Sam's Sister- join the club!

DAYTONA Beyer Index 99
Betty's Bambino the lowest Beyer ever 2004-12.

MR PROSPECTOR Beyer Index 107
Speechify 102 is better than 2011-12 winners 99-98 and generally in line with recent trends.

LA PREV Beyer Index 97
Irish Mission 92 in line with recent trends 2010-12 (93-93-88)

McKNIGHT Beyer Index 100
Divine Oath 97 the fastest since 2008.

What to make of the significant deficits on the Santa Anita races???

Cheers,

Otis

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Easy Goer Otis

Just leafing through the 2013 American Racing Manual and lining these figs up up with past winners and Beyer pars:

MALIBU: Beyer Index 104
Shared Belief 99 is lowest Beyer since Johnny Eves 94 in 2007.

LA BREA: Beyer Index 98
Only 3 horses in 25 years have run Beyers in the 80s. Sam's Sister- join the club!

DAYTONA Beyer Index 99
Betty's Bambino the lowest Beyer ever 2004-12.

MR PROSPECTOR Beyer Index 107
Speechify 102 is better than 2011-12 winners 99-98 and generally in line with recent trends.

LA PREV Beyer Index 97
Irish Mission 92 in line with recent trends 2010-12 (93-93-88)

McKNIGHT Beyer Index 100
Divine Oath 97 the fastest since 2008.

What to make of the significant deficits on the Santa Anita races???

Cheers,

Otis

Might have been a day at SA were figs at least Beyer's will not prove as useful a handicapping tool as they typically are? I don't know to me the race was unimpressive (Malibu). Public handicappers and professions seemed to like the race better. Many thought it was another outstanding performance by SB. I think it left more questions unanswered on dirt.

[Easy Goer Otis]

I agree with you, Freddy. The Santa Anita figs are maybe not as useful as normal. I wonder if the track was dull on opening day, but I thought that was already factored into the Beyers.

Interesting to note that the Florida stakes winners all ran to recent historical norms. How would you weigh these figs if a Santa Anita horse met a GP horse coming out of these races?

Otis

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Originally Posted by Easy Goer Otis

I agree with you, Freddy. The Santa Anita figs are maybe not as useful as normal. I wonder if the track was dull on opening day, but I thought that was already factored into the Beyers.

Interesting to note that the Florida stakes winners all ran to recent historical norms. How would you weigh these figs if a Santa Anita horse met a GP horse coming out of these races?

Otis

They would get crushed based on the figures. I think in general though horses are running 5-15 points below historical norms in the mdn, alw, and stake levels.

I dont by it but I use other figures that show there has not been the same drop off over past years.