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Old 04-26-2020, 01:26 PM
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Old 04-26-2020, 06:38 PM
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Jon White ML odds for the Arkansas Derbys:

1. Charlatan 3-5
2. My Friends Beer 30-1
3. Mo Mosa 50-1
4. Gouverneur Morris 5-1
5. Jungle Runner 50-1
6. Shooters Shoot SCR
7. Wrecking Crew SCR
8. Anneau d'Or 8-1
9. Winning Impression 20-1
10. Crypto Cash 20-1
11. Basin 6-1


1. Finnick the Fierce 30-1
2. Saratogian SCR
3. Storm the Court 12-1
4. King Guillermo 4-1
5. Nadal 6-5
6. Code Runner 50-1
7. Silver Prospector 6-1
8. Fast Enough SCR
9. Taishan 15-1
10. Farmington Road 8-1
11. Wells Bayou 6-1
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Naturally they have the 2 best hosses in the same division. The King and Nadal should beat that field by a pole.
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Now SCR Fast Enough from the 2nd Division after re-aggrevating a shin..
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Naturally they have the 2 best hosses in the same division. The King and Nadal should beat that field by a pole.
I wager that Charlatan will be the triple crown horse #1 for BB
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I wager that Charlatan will be the triple crown horse #1 for BB
Big scratch of the speedy 6 helps immensely
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looks like 3 beautiful days and a fast track at Hot Springs to end the meet.
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Wrecking Crew and Saratogian are scratched also, could have had one nice race.
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If any of those horses in the first leg can challenge Charlatan early, I think he is a horse to bet against at those odds. Possibly Anneau d’Or or Basin...but I don’t feel strongly about that. It would have been nice to see the 6 and 7 in the race. I may take a shot on a big longshot like Winning Impression and hope for a contested pace.
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If any of those horses in the first leg can challenge Charlatan early, I think he is a horse to bet against at those odds. Possibly Anneau d’Or or Basin...but I don’t feel strongly about that. It would have been nice to see the 6 and 7 in the race. I may take a shot on a big longshot like Winning Impression and hope for a contested pace.
If the track is same conditions as yesterday Charlatan will be very very tough.
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looks like 3 beautiful days and a fast track at Hot Springs to end the meet.
And I would have bet that wouldn't happen. Just put floats on my golf cart.
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Improbable a SCR from Handicap..
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If the track is same conditions as yesterday Charlatan will be very very tough.
Looking like it could turn out that way.
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I’m about done with Joe Talamo.
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I’m about done with Joe Talamo.
I’ve been off Talamo for a while.

I can’t pinpoint when but I rarely bet Johnny V anymore either. I don’t know if he’s just not getting the horses or if I’m just not watching enough lately because his percentages still look solid but it seems like he doesn’t win many races anymore.
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Hot Springs handled over $41 million today.
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I’ve been off Talamo for a while.

I can’t pinpoint when but I rarely bet Johnny V anymore either. I don’t know if he’s just not getting the horses or if I’m just not watching enough lately because his percentages still look solid but it seems like he doesn’t win many races anymore.
I know it’s mostly me, but I feel like anytime I love a horse Talamo is on, he gets a totally different trip than I expected...so I have a hard time believing he’s reading the same forms as the rest of us.
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