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Old 02-10-2019, 05:35 AM
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TAM Sam F. Davis S (G3): Well Defined 93 (With Distinction) K. O'Connell/P. Morales
TAM Tampa Bay S (G3): Inspector Lynley 101 (Lemon Drop Kid) C. McGaughey/J. Ortiz
TAM Endeavour S (G3): Hawksmoor-IRE 95 (Azamour-IRE) A. Delacour/J. Castellano
TAM Suncoast S: Point of Honor 82 (Curlin) G. Weaver/J. Castellano

SA San Marcos S (G2): Platinum Warrior-IRE 97 (Galileo-IRE) J. Sadler/S. Foley
SA Las Virgenes S (G2): Bellafina 90 (Quality Road) S. Callaghan/F. Prat
SA Thunder Road S (G3): True Valour-IRE 95 (Kodiac-GB) S. Callaghan/A. Atzeni
SA San Vicente S (G2): Sparky Ville 94 (Candy Ride-ARG) J. Bonde/J. Rosario
SA Sweet Life S (O/T): Apache Princess 73 (Unusual Heat) J. Desormeaux/K. Desormeaux

GP Suwannee River S (G3): Valedictorian 93 (Temple City) K. Breen/T. Gaffalione
GP El Prado S: Hembree 93 (Proud Citizen) M. Maker/I. Ortiz
GP OC/N1X (8.5f): Global Campaign 77 (Curlin) S. Hough/L. Saez

AQU Jimmy Winkfield S: Haikal 84 (Daaher) K. McLaughlin/R. Maragh
AQU Biogio's Rose S: Frostie Anne 88 (Frost Giant) R. Rodriguez/H. Diaz

OP King Cotton S: Heartwood 94 (Tapit) J. Chapman/D. Cohen

DED LA Bred Premier Night Championship S: Grand Luwegee 89 (El Corredor) G. Perron/D. Saenz
DED LA Bred Premier Night Distaff S: Hyper Piper 73 (Old Fashioned) S. David/T. Thornton
DED LA Bred Premier Night Sprint S: Wonder Run 89 (Run Production) S. Flint/D. Saenz
DED LA Bred Premier Night Matron S: Ours to Run 81 (Half Ours) J. Jones/R. Morales
DED LA Bred Premier Night Prince S: Shang 85 (Shanghai Bobby) S. Asmussen/D. Saenz
DED LA Bred Premier Night Starlet S: Goodprofit 71 (Guilt Trip) C. Richard/G. Melancon

TUP Phoenix Gold Cup H: Minister of Soul 89 (Ministers Wild Cat) E. Martinez/G. Corbett

FG Shantel Lanerie Memorial S: Winter Sunset 80 (Tapit) W. Catalano/C. Hill
FG OC?N1X (8.5f): Dream Maker 89 (Tapit) M. Casse/F. Geroux
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Old 02-10-2019, 12:42 PM
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A lot of buzz about Global Campaign. Jason Blewit was asking him or Hidden Scroll? I dont see the comparison at all. Hidden Scroll is different. Global Campaign is OK, but it doesn't feel like he's going to want to go long. I dont like the way he finished up yesterday, and i don't think the 2nd place horse is very good. Also the horse he beat 1st out is about 3-5 or less at Gulfstream today and i dont think he's a cinch.
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:35 PM
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A lot of buzz about Global Campaign. Jason Blewit was asking him or Hidden Scroll? I dont see the comparison at all. Hidden Scroll is different. Global Campaign is OK, but it doesn't feel like he's going to want to go long. I dont like the way he finished up yesterday, and i don't think the 2nd place horse is very good. Also the horse he beat 1st out is about 3-5 or less at Gulfstream today and i dont think he's a cinch.
I don’t see the comparison to Hidden Scroll. Is it simply recency bias? I see no reason for Global Campaign to be 24-1 in the futures pool when Mucho Gusto is 21-1, Coliseum is 21-1, Vekoma is 35-1, and I’ll even throw Instagrand at 13-1. I don’t see the value at 24-1 for that horse.
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Old 02-10-2019, 04:36 PM
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I don’t see the comparison to Hidden Scroll. Is it simply recency bias? I see no reason for Global Campaign to be 24-1 in the futures pool when Mucho Gusto is 21-1, Coliseum is 21-1, Vekoma is 35-1, and I’ll even throw Instagrand at 13-1. I don’t see the value at 24-1 for that horse.
Also, I reluctantly say Coliseum because I think Dessman wins that race today.
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Old 02-10-2019, 06:32 PM
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Global Campaign isn't even remotely a Derby contender. It's just silly.
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Coliseum closing out at 21-1 when finishing up the track in his two prior starts (both at 3/5) might easily be the funniest thing horse racing brings us in 2019. It’s unREAL to me, and something I’m not wrapping my head around. I wouldn’t take him at 210-1 let alone 21-1. HELL, I would’nt even take him at 210-1 to make the Kentucky Derby!
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:04 PM
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Global Campaign isn't even remotely a Derby contender. It's just silly.
I completely agree.
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:05 PM
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Coliseum closing out at 21-1 when finishing up the track in his two prior starts (both at 3/5) might easily be the funniest thing horse racing brings us in 2019. It’s unREAL to me, and something I’m not wrapping my head around. I wouldn’t take him at 210-1 let alone 21-1. HELL, I would’nt even take him at 210-1 to make the Kentucky Derby!
He had a massive buzz before his debut, then validated it. I could give him a break for the 1st flop, but not 2x.
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Old 02-10-2019, 11:30 PM
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Coliseum closing out at 21-1 when finishing up the track in his two prior starts (both at 3/5) might easily be the funniest thing horse racing brings us in 2019. It’s unREAL to me, and something I’m not wrapping my head around. I wouldn’t take him at 210-1 let alone 21-1. HELL, I would’nt even take him at 210-1 to make the Kentucky Derby!
I think the pool closed well before today's race.

He was a joke at 21:1 regardless....just clarifying.
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Old 02-11-2019, 12:05 AM
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I think the pool closed well before today's race.

He was a joke at 21:1 regardless....just clarifying.
True...and true.
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Anybody see Dream Maker's return Saturday? Tampa Bay Derby likely next..
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SA San Vicente S (G2): Sparky Ville 94 (Candy Ride-ARG) J. Bonde/J. Rosario
SA Sweet Life S (O/T): Apache Princess 73 (Unusual Heat) J. Desormeaux/K. Desormeaux

AQU Biogio's Rose S: Frostie Anne 88 (Frost Giant) R. Rodriguez/H. Diaz
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Anybody see Dream Maker's return Saturday? Tampa Bay Derby likely next..
Where?
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Old 02-11-2019, 08:13 AM
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Found it.
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Anybody see Dream Maker's return Saturday? Tampa Bay Derby likely next..
Tampa Derby is looking like a nice prep race.
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