Weekend Stakes Beyers

Kasept · #1 04-25-2022, 05:15 AM

OP Oaklawn H (G2): Last Samurai 102 (Malibu Moon) D. Stewart/J. Court
OP Apple Blossom H (G1): Letruska 103 (Super Saver) F. Gutierrez/J. Ortiz
OP Oaklawn S: Home Brew 84 (Street Sense) B. Cox/J. Ortiz

KEE Elkhorn S (G2): Channel Maker 97 (English Channel) W. Mott/L. Saez
KEE Ben Ali S (G3): Scalding 97 (Nyquist) C. McGaughey/J. Castellano
KEE Doubledogdare S (G3): Malathaat 88 (Curlin) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez

AQU Woodhaven S: Unanimous Consent-GB 80 (Almanzor-FR) C. Brown/M. Franco
AQU New York Stallion S: Kazmike 78 (Bank Heist) D. Synnefias/T. McCarthy
AQU New York Stallion S: Galaxina 79 (Giant Surprise) H. Bond/T. McCarthy
AQU Memories Of Silver S: Consumer Spending 85 (More Than Ready) C. Brown/M. Franco

LRL King T. Leatherbury S: True Valour-IRE 89 (Kodiac-GB) H. Motion/F. Lynch
LRL Native Dancer S: Rough Sea 93 (Include) B. Tessore/D. Araujo
LRL Primonetta S: Kaylasaurus 89 (Munnings) T. Kreiser/H. Karamanos
LRL Henry S. Clark S: Chez Pierre-FR 98 (Mehmas-IRE) A. Delacour/D. Centeno
LRL Dahlia S: Deciding Vote 84 (Mr Speaker) E. Graham/A. Suarez

SRP Russell and Helen Foutz Distaff S: Lemon Drop Gold 72 (Mr. Gold Mover) J. Gonzalez/F. Reyes
SRP Inaugural S: Mine That Star 82 (Pioneerof the Nile) N. Summers/K. Purcell

CT Confucius Say S: No Change 86 (Fiber Sonde) J. McKee/M. Mendez
CT Original Gold S: Boundtobebad 68 (Windsor Castle) J. Casey/G. Almodovar

MID Temple Gwathmey H (G2): Iranistan N/A (Einstein-BRZ) K. Brion/P. Hendriks
MID Middleburg Hunt Cup S: Storm Team N/A (Candy Ride-ARG) J. Fisher/G. Watters

Dahoss · #2 04-25-2022, 06:52 AM

How about B Dawk at Keeneland yesterday?

freddymo · #3 04-25-2022, 08:24 AM

The most exciting horse to run this weekend ran an 80 BSF on the turf

Dahoss · #4 04-25-2022, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

The most exciting horse to run this weekend ran an 80 BSF on the turf

He's really good.

I'm surprised you're not excited about Scalding. Classic Shug progression.

freddymo · #5 04-25-2022, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

He's really good.

I'm surprised you're not excited about Scalding. Classic Shug progression.

What was crazy about that Ben Ali was that Dynamic One ran in the Black and Cherry and is trained by TAP and Shug beats him. Scalding looks fine he will have to keep going forward
d to win against G1 types, that said he hasn't done anything to believe he cant

blackthroatedwind · #6 04-25-2022, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

How about B Dawk at Keeneland yesterday?

92

blackthroatedwind · #7 04-25-2022, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

What was crazy about that Ben Ali was that Dynamic One ran in the Black and Cherry and is trained by TAP and Shug beats him. Scalding looks fine he will have to keep going forward
d to win against G1 types, that said he hasn't done anything to believe he cant

I think he is supposed to wear the Phipps silks every third race.

He also hasn't shown that he can.

Dahoss · #8 04-25-2022, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

92

Thanks

freddymo · #9 04-25-2022, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think he is supposed to wear the Phipps silks every third race.

He also hasn't shown that he can.

That wasn't much of a field... Nothing for him at Belmont until the Suburban unless he goes in Brooklyn I wonder what his next race will be?

Alabama Stakes · #10 04-25-2022, 09:46 AM

The prestigious Pimlico Special.

Alabama Stakes · #11 04-25-2022, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

The most exciting horse to run this weekend ran an 80 BSF on the turf

Did you see how thick that hoss is ? Has muscles in places most hosses don’t even have places. 80 seems low

blackthroatedwind · #12 04-25-2022, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

That wasn't much of a field... Nothing for him at Belmont until the Suburban unless he goes in Brooklyn I wonder what his next race will be?

He could run in the Pim Special. He's also been in training for a while so Shug could wait for a race like the Suburban.

freddymo · #13 04-25-2022, 10:42 AM

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Did you see how thick that hoss is? Has muscles in places most hosses don’t even have places. 80 seems low

I am not well versed in equine muscularity, nor am I a fan of "the eye test," and the horse could have run faster. This horse is good. He couldn't have run faster but could have continued to run as fast longer if he had to. The BSF reflects the overall time of the race and I have little doubt about its accuracy. For me, it wouldn't mean that much in projecting his ability

Alabama Stakes · #14 04-25-2022, 11:07 AM

Isn’t you saying he could have run faster for longer an eye test ?

freddymo · #15 04-25-2022, 11:21 AM

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Isn’t you saying he could have run faster for longer an eye test?

Not really. It's how fast he was able to go from running to exploding(turn of foot?) and if you could measure that scientifically with instruments, you would be able to define just how much faster he was able to achieve his best speed vs. the other horses. He raced against a group that included some nicely bred and meant types. The waters will get deeper with faster, more talented horses than the types he faced. All that said, it is a matter of physical science vs. a subjective "eye test."