Why Andy Beyer is a Legend

blackthroatedwind · #1 05-26-2008, 07:28 PM

As many of you know, Andy Beyer went to South America this winter to take a stab at South American racing. He spent hours making figs for their races and was unfortunately faced with a huge takeout and miniscule pools that made real wagering virtually impossible. But, while it was a great exercise and a fun time, until today it was also a financial waste of time.

While riding the train out to Belmont today I got a call from Andy telling me he was making a huge bet at Belmont. Now, this is the time that I would usually be smart to hang up and tell him I lost service, but recklessly I allowed him to go further. In the second race, an extraordinarily weak maiden race, Andy told me that #4 Emotival was his huge bet. Three races back in Argentina Emotival had finished a close third and Andy had given him a figure of 77 which towered over today's field. Two back when he finished fifth at 1 1/8 miles ( today's race was a mile ) the horse had been right there in midstretch and last time when he faltered badly at 1 1/4 miles he had been scorched in a torrid speed duel. He said he was fully confident in the 77 figure and considering today's field he was sending it in. That was good enough for me and I followed suit.

Emotival, if you don't know, paid $21 after holding off the odds on favorite....and Beyer was repaid for his hours of work in preparation for his South American adventure. At a time when having an edge using speed figures is virtually non-existant, Andy Beyer did the near impossible, and for a few minutes turned back the clock.

#2 05-26-2008, 07:31 PM

Well that's great for you two.

the_fat_man · #3 05-26-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He said he was fully confident in the 77 figure and considering today's field he was sending it in. That was good enough for me and I followed suit.

And you then SENT IT IN again in the 4th on Justinline?

blackthroatedwind · #4 05-26-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

And you then SENT IT IN again in the 4th on Justinline?

I didn't bet that race but thought of you afterwards. I hope you're not too proud of that selection all things considered.

hockey2315 · #5 05-26-2008, 07:40 PM

Was going to start a thread about this horse. . . Anyone know anything about the trainer? He showed absolutely nothing in his workouts so I was thinking 9.5-1 seemed a little low. Maybe it was all that Andy money. . .

the_fat_man · #6 05-26-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I didn't bet that race but thought of you afterwards. I hope you're not too proud of that selection all things considered.

Why: it went exactly as planned?

ateamstupid · #7 05-26-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Was going to start a thread about this horse. . . Anyone know anything about the trainer? He showed absolutely nothing in his workouts so I was thinking 9.5-1 seemed a little low. Maybe it was all that Andy money. . .

Watch the board my man. Opened up at 19-1, went off at 9-1. No way an Argentinian from nameless connections does that unless somebody knows something.

eajinabi · #8 05-26-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

As many of you know, Andy Beyer went to South America this winter to take a stab at South American racing. He spent hours making figs for their races and was unfortunately faced with a huge takeout and miniscule pools that made real wagering virtually impossible. But, while it was a great exercise and a fun time, until today it was also a financial waste of time.

While riding the train out to Belmont today I got a call from Andy telling me he was making a huge bet at Belmont. Now, this is the time that I would usually be smart to hang up and tell him I lost service, but recklessly I allowed him to go further. In the second race, an extraordinarily weak maiden race, Andy told me that #4 Emotival was his huge bet. Three races back in Argentina Emotival had finished a close third and Andy had given him a figure of 77 which towered over today's field. Two back when he finished fifth at 1 1/8 miles ( today's race was a mile ) the horse had been right there in midstretch and last time when he faltered badly at 1 1/4 miles he had been scorched in a torrid speed duel. He said he was fully confident in the 77 figure and considering today's field he was sending it in. That was good enough for me and I followed suit.

Emotival, if you don't know, paid $21 after holding off the odds on favorite....and Beyer was repaid for his hours of work in preparation for his South American adventure. At a time when having an edge using speed figures is virtually non-existant, Andy Beyer did the near impossible, and for a few minutes turned back the clock.

That horse was key in my Pick 4 in which I hit for $2596

AeWingnut · #9 05-26-2008, 08:37 PM

I keyed the horse on top of my trifecta

I didn't have to go anywhere

hockey2315 · #10 05-26-2008, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Watch the board my man. Opened up at 19-1, went off at 9-1. No way an Argentinian from nameless connections does that unless somebody knows something.

I always watch the board for stuff like that - especially in baby races. . . I didn't follow the races until the 4th today, though - just saw the results.

hockey2315 · #11 05-26-2008, 09:07 PM

I wonder how much $ it takes to knock a horse from 19-1 to 9-1. . .

justindew · #12 05-26-2008, 09:08 PM

In a related story, my brother called me as I was on my way to the movie theater and warned me that the new Indiana Jones flick was a pile of garbage. Unlike BTW, I did NOT listen when I should have and I am now $9 lighter in the wallet.

I wish I got calls from professional handicappers giving me $21 winners.

ateamstupid · #13 05-26-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

I wonder how much $ it takes to knock a horse from 19-1 to 9-1. . .

$10,000? Just guessing.

hi_im_god · #14 05-26-2008, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew

In a related story, my brother called me as I was on my way to the movie theater and warned me that the new Indiana Jones flick was a pile of garbage. Unlike BTW, I did NOT listen when I should have and I am now $9 lighter in the wallet.

I wish I got calls from professional handicappers giving me $21 winners.

it's not the $9. it's the 2 hours of your life.

and much as i respect the 2 andy's, i'm pretty sure you don't want them calling you every time they think they have an angle.

geeker2 · #15 05-26-2008, 09:30 PM

Call me sentimental..but I actually liked the story..it reminded me of an episode of the Odd Couple...

pick4 · #16 05-26-2008, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

As many of you know, Andy Beyer went to South America this winter to take a stab at South American racing. He spent hours making figs for their races and was unfortunately faced with a huge takeout and miniscule pools that made real wagering virtually impossible. But, while it was a great exercise and a fun time, until today it was also a financial waste of time.

While riding the train out to Belmont today I got a call from Andy telling me he was making a huge bet at Belmont. Now, this is the time that I would usually be smart to hang up and tell him I lost service, but recklessly I allowed him to go further. In the second race, an extraordinarily weak maiden race, Andy told me that #4 Emotival was his huge bet. Three races back in Argentina Emotival had finished a close third and Andy had given him a figure of 77 which towered over today's field. Two back when he finished fifth at 1 1/8 miles ( today's race was a mile ) the horse had been right there in midstretch and last time when he faltered badly at 1 1/4 miles he had been scorched in a torrid speed duel. He said he was fully confident in the 77 figure and considering today's field he was sending it in. That was good enough for me and I followed suit.

Emotival, if you don't know, paid $21 after holding off the odds on favorite....and Beyer was repaid for his hours of work in preparation for his South American adventure. At a time when having an edge using speed figures is virtually non-existant, Andy Beyer did the near impossible, and for a few minutes turned back the clock.

I hope you handed a few Washington's to the teller and received a lot more back. It's great that you are friends with Mr. Beyer. I think he is a legend based on the articles's he written for the Washington Post and the outstanding books he's had published.

XIIPointStables · #17 05-26-2008, 09:53 PM

Is this going to lead to Chuck Norris/Bill Brasky-like Internet handicapping stories about Andy Beyer?

We can only hope.

pick4 · #18 05-26-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by XIIPointStables

Is this going to lead to Chuck Norris/Bill Brasky-like Internet handicapping stories about Andy Beyer?

We can only hope.

You mean Walker Texas Ranger Chuck Norris?

XIIPointStables · #19 05-26-2008, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pick4

You mean Walker Texas Ranger Chuck Norris?

I mean this Chuck Norris

When Chuck Norris plays Oregon Trail his family does not die from cholera or dysentery, but rather roundhouse kicks to the face. He also requires no wagon, since he carries the oxen, axles, and buffalo meat on his back. He always makes it to Oregon before you.

ninetoone · #20 05-26-2008, 10:04 PM

Andy Beyer does not sleep. He waits.