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Old 07-15-2013, 05:24 PM
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Hey All -

In this thread, I'll be outlining a $100 play for each day this Saratoga meet and keeping track of my net and ROI. Usually, the bulk of the play will be a Pick 4 ticket, with some additional Win/Double/Pick 3 goodies tacked on, always adding up to $100. I'll also write a few paragraphs about the main sequence explaining in detail how I saw the races, as well as some brief postmortem in the next post about the results. The idea is to show that a player can make a good profit over the course of this meet by identifying sequences that are worth investing in and devoting the necessary time to solve them, rather than just reflexively trying to make money on every race.

The first post will go up Thursday night. Let's have a great Saratoga.

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Old 07-15-2013, 05:52 PM
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Hey All -

In this thread, I'll be outlining a $100 play for each day this Saratoga meet and keeping track of my net and ROI. Usually, the bulk of the play will be a Pick 4 ticket, with some additional Win/Double/Pick 3 goodies tacked on, always adding up to $100. I'll also write a few paragraphs about the main sequence explaining in detail how I saw the races, as well as some brief postmortem in the next post about the results. The idea is to show that a player can make a good profit over the course of this meet by identifying sequences that are worth investing in and devoting the necessary time to solve them, rather than just reflexively trying to make money on every race.

The first post will go up Thursday night. Let's have a great Saratoga.

JB

That sound cool,I'm going 2b checking out your picks and this thread.
Good luck @Saratoga. I like your idea I might try that @Del Mar.
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:09 PM
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would be curious to compare the roi on 40 one hundred dollar win bets vs the roi on 40 one hundred dollar p4 or p3 plays
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Old 07-15-2013, 08:29 PM
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Hey All -

In this thread, I'll be outlining a $100 play for each day this Saratoga meet and keeping track of my net and ROI. Usually, the bulk of the play will be a Pick 4 ticket, with some additional Win/Double/Pick 3 goodies tacked on, always adding up to $100. I'll also write a few paragraphs about the main sequence explaining in detail how I saw the races, as well as some brief postmortem in the next post about the results. The idea is to show that a player can make a good profit over the course of this meet by identifying sequences that are worth investing in and devoting the necessary time to solve them, rather than just reflexively trying to make money on every race.

The first post will go up Thursday night. Let's have a great Saratoga.

JB
Good idea. Good luck, crush it.
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:19 PM
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Are you going to play all your picks with real money too?
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Old 07-15-2013, 09:45 PM
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Are you going to play all your picks with real money too?
Yes geek, absolutely.

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Old 07-15-2013, 09:54 PM
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Yes geek, absolutely. I'll be posting screenshots of my wagers.

Nice - can't wait.

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Old 07-16-2013, 07:11 AM
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Yes geek, absolutely. I'll be posting screenshots of my wagers.
Based upon your pick 4 play you post here you are odds on to post a profit for the meet. Hope you land a monster.
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:08 AM
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Looking forward to this thread and the meet. Money to be made. Best of luck Ateam
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:13 AM
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GL Joey hope you catch some monster payoffs.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:19 AM
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Good Luck Joe KP
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:45 AM
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go get em joe..channel the round table!!
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:21 PM
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I will be following Joey! Best of luck and hope to cash a ticket or two hanging on to your coat-tails.
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Old 07-16-2013, 01:37 PM
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would be curious to compare the roi on 40 one hundred dollar win bets vs the roi on 40 one hundred dollar p4 or p3 plays
Apples and oranges, no? The guy's going to deal in "sequences," i.e., horizontal plays involving multiple possibilities, in search of a nice profit at the end of the meet.
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Good luck with this and a good idea. The point of picking a few races or a sequence makes a lot of sense. How often do all of us treat Saratoga differently as bettors than AQ in December. Every race isn't a betting opportunity especially if you don't have a strong opinion. I find giving yourself a daily bankroll like that is the easiest way to try and come out with a positive ROI. And that is regardless of how you are structuring your bets, i.e. rolling 3s etc...Any thought of doing something like this for Del Mar as well? The overall cards are usually better at Saratoga but I've found the bettors are sharper at Toga as well. Thanks and good luck...Randy
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Good luck with this and a good idea. The point of picking a few races or a sequence makes a lot of sense. How often do all of us treat Saratoga differently as bettors than AQ in December. Every race isn't a betting opportunity especially if you don't have a strong opinion. I find giving yourself a daily bankroll like that is the easiest way to try and come out with a positive ROI. And that is regardless of how you are structuring your bets, i.e. rolling 3s etc...Any thought of doing something like this for Del Mar as well? The overall cards are usually better at Saratoga but I've found the bettors are sharper at Toga as well. Thanks and good luck...Randy
a Randall sighting? Now the pressure's really on.. I play Del Mar, but don't follow the circuit like I do w/NYRA so I don't feel as comfortable writing extended opinions about it. I'll stick with Toga.

Thanks for the support all. Friday's PP's are out.
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Good luck with this and a good idea. The point of picking a few races or a sequence makes a lot of sense. How often do all of us treat Saratoga differently as bettors than AQ in December. Every race isn't a betting opportunity especially if you don't have a strong opinion. I find giving yourself a daily bankroll like that is the easiest way to try and come out with a positive ROI. And that is regardless of how you are structuring your bets, i.e. rolling 3s etc...Any thought of doing something like this for Del Mar as well? The overall cards are usually better at Saratoga but I've found the bettors are sharper at Toga as well. Thanks and good luck...Randy


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Old 07-16-2013, 02:11 PM
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:22 PM
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Apples and oranges, no? The guy's going to deal in "sequences," i.e., horizontal plays involving multiple possibilities, in search of a nice profit at the end of the meet.
Isn't everyone in search of a nice profit at the end of the meet....the question is do you get there by betting apples or do you get there by betting oranges.... my post was not a put down of Joe's wagering approach but simply curious as to the differences in the roi's between the two
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Old 07-16-2013, 05:11 PM
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A bold quest indeed.............best of luck. Hope you don't mind if we piggyback along!!
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