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Old 06-14-2017, 01:47 PM
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:07 PM
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Nice to see Forever Unbridled back. One could argue she was best in the Ladies Classic.
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:26 PM
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Nice to see Forever Unbridled back. One could argue she was best in the Ladies Classic.
That was a very fairly run race and she hung like a rat IMO. I had her in that one.
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:27 PM
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Nice to see Forever Unbridled back. One could argue she was best in the Ladies Classic.
I'm happy to see the horse run but she wasn't best in that race.
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Old 06-14-2017, 05:29 PM
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That was a very fairly run race and she hung like a rat IMO. I had her in that one.
Really? Seemed like a slow pace dominated by 2 horses who raced on top of it.
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Old 06-14-2017, 06:37 PM
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Really? Seemed like a slow pace dominated by 2 horses who raced on top of it.
She had a perfect trip and every chance to run by them, but failed to pass two better hosses. There's no shame in that. She's great, just not as great as Songbird or Beholder. The alleged slow pace had her pretty close with very little ground to make up. Coincidentally she make up very little ground.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:23 PM
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What race did you guys watch? Forever Unbridled was last early. Songbird and Beholder are 1-4 and 1-3. The announcer calls it a very easy for her half. Come on guys.
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Old 06-14-2017, 09:24 PM
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That was a very fairly run race and she hung like a rat IMO. I had her in that one.
Your being way 2 harsh.
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Old 06-15-2017, 09:44 AM
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What race did you guys watch? Forever Unbridled was last early. Songbird and Beholder are 1-4 and 1-3. The announcer calls it a very easy for her half. Come on guys.
So your point is Songbird and Beholder should have ran a 45 second half so Forever would take advantage and close on them? While the pace was not blistering it was still 23 and 47 which isn't walking. Forever was close enough to them on the far turn but could not run them down and had a really nice trip. The top two ran the race the way they should and were better under the conditions of the race.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:26 AM
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Beholder was best in the Distaff and it wasn't close.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:31 AM
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So your point is Songbird and Beholder should have ran a 45 second half so Forever would take advantage and close on them? While the pace was not blistering it was still 23 and 47 which isn't walking. Forever was close enough to them on the far turn but could not run them down and had a really nice trip. The top two ran the race the way they should and were better under the conditions of the race.
45 is excessive. 23 flat 46 flat probably gets UF home.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:33 AM
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Nice to see Forever Unbridled back. One could argue she was best in the Ladies Classic.
Call the Distaff the Ladies Classic again and give me a new creative reason to dart you..
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Beholder was best in the Distaff and it wasn't close.
You mean second best right ? Did you watch that replay yet ?
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The pace was fair enough, she just wasnt good enough. What I am hearing is if the pace was blistering and the race fell apart she would have won...hardly makes her best in that race.
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You mean second best right ? Did you watch that replay yet ?
Songbird was 3rd best IMO the debate would be between UF and Beholder who chased wide.
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Old 06-15-2017, 11:39 AM
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Call the Distaff the Ladies Classic again and give me a new creative reason to dart you..
Sorry. Forgot they changed it back.
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You mean second best right ? Did you watch that replay yet ?
Did you?
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GUN RUNNER ....SHF Gr1...FIRST time on lasix...is that a good thing ?
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:06 AM
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pick 4

McCracken...many wins at CD
PLeuven....won race last year
Unbridled Song...lost to the best in the distaff
GUN RUNNER....you know why..I hope the lasix is not a problem


cough cough ....choke choke..
I hardly see the screen with all the chalk in the air
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Old 06-17-2017, 09:07 AM
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Sorry. Forgot they changed it back.
this is UNacceptable..
your apology is not accepted..

go sit in the corner and put on the dunce cap ...please

see i was polite
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