Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers

[Kasept]

BEL Belmont Derby S (G1): Catholic Boy 99 (More Than Ready) J. Thomas /J. Castellano
BEL Belmont Oaks S (G1): Athena-IRE 96 (Camelot-GB) A. O'Brien/R. Moore
BEL Suburban S (G2): Diversify 110 (Bellamy Road) R. Violette /I. Ortiz
BEL BEL Sprint S (G2): Limousine Liberal 99 (Successful Appeal) B. Colebrook/J. Ortiz
BEL Dwyer S (G3): Firenze Fire 107 (Poseidon's Warrior) J. Servis/I. Ortiz
BEL Victory Ride S (G3): Dixie Serenade 86 (Uptowncharlybrown) E. Coletti/M. Sanchez
BEL River Memories S: Homeland Security 89 (Smart Strike) C. Brown/ I. Ortiz
BEL State Dinner S: Sunny Ridge 102 (Holy Bull) J. Servis/I. Ortiz
BEL Manila S: Up the Ante 95 (Smart Strike) C. Clement/J. Castellano

DEL Delaware Oaks (G3): Red Ruby 104 (Tiznow) K. Gorder/P. Lopez
DEL Dick Memorial S (G3): Tricky Escape 92 (Hat Trick-JPN) L. Ashby/C. DeCarlo
DEL Cape Henlopen S: O Dionysus 91 (Bodemeister) G. Capuano/A. Cintron
DEL Dashing Beauty S: Jessica Krupnick 86 (Uncle Mo) F. Abbott III/T. McCarthy

AP Modesty H (G3): Daddys Lil Darling 96 (Scat Daddy) K. McPeek/B. Hernandez
AP Hatoof S: Colonia-FR 86 (Champs Elysees-GB) H. Motion /J. Bravo
AP Arlington H (G3): Divisidero 100(Kitten's Joy) K. Rubley /J. Toledo
AP American Derby (G3): Real Story 87 (Fast Bullet) I. Correas IV/ J. Bravo
AP Stars/Stripes S (G3): Catcho En Die-ARG 100 (Catcher In The Rye-IRE) N. Chatterpaul/ J. Valdivia

PRM Cornhusker H (G3): Remembering Rita 95 (Spring At Last) D. Anderson/A. Birzer
PRM Iowa Derby: High North 81 (Midnight Lute) B. Cox/F. Geroux
PRM Iowa Sprint H: Done Deal 94 (Macho Uno) I. Wilkes/C. Landeros
PRM Iowa Stallion Futurity: Substitution 61 (Alternation) K. Von Hemel/R. Albarado
PRM Iowa Oaks (G3): She's a Julie 94 (Elusive Quality) S. Asmussen/R. Santana
PRM Saylorville S: Golden Mischief 94 (Into Mischief) B. Cox/F. Geroux
PRM Iowa Distaff S: Dreamcall 83 (Midnight Lute) S. Asmussen/R. Santana

PRX Parx Dash S (G3): Vision Perfect 96 (Pollard's Vision) J. Servis/F. Pennington
PRX Turf Amazon S: Smiling Causeway 101 (Giant's Causeway) A. Delacour/D. Centeno

LRC Great Lady M S (G2): Marley's Freedom 91 (Blame) B. Baffert/D. Van Dyke
LRC Bertrando S: Soi Phet 94 (Tizbud) L. Powell/A. Quinonez

PID Northern Fling S: Rose Tree -- (Harlan's Holiday) J. Sheppard/A. Wolfsont
PID Leematt S: Beyond Smart -- (Smart Strike) T. Girten/S. Spieth

GP Martha Washington S: Via DQ-Camila Princess (Animal Kingdom) O. Gonzalez/M. Vasquez
GP Not Surprising S: Gemonteer 92 (Distorted Humor) J. Antonucci/M. Vasquez
GP Mecke S: Conquest Sandman 99 (Scat Daddy) J. Abarrio/E. Jaramillo

WO My Dear S: Via DQ-Stifling -- (Flatter) W. Bourke/P. Morales
WO Shepperton S: Kingsport -- (Milwaukee Brew) S. Attard/P. Husbands

OTP Everett Nevin S: Luck's Royal Flush 67 (Lucky Pulpit) J. Bonde / S. Elliott

LRL Stormy Blues S: Miz Mayhem 83 (Yesbyjimminy) E. Plesa/E. Zayas
LRL Concern S: Whereshetoldmetogo 88 (El Padrino) A. Pecoraro/J. Rose

MTH Long Branch S: Navy Commander 84 (Poseidon's Warrior) R. Reid/A. Arroyo
MTH Jersey Girl H: Valedictorian 79 (Temple City) K. Breen/C. Hernandez

BTP Hoover S: Diamond Dust 58 (Paynter) T. Hamm/L. Colon
BTP Cincinnatian S: Mobil Bonnet 55 (Mobil) J. Tooley/J. Journet

ELP Ellis Park Turf S: Bonnie Arch -- (Regal Ransom) I. Wilkes/C. Landeros

NP Shirley Vargo H: Sail On By -- (Finality) T. Rycroft/ N. Ortiz

SUF Last Dance S: Dr Blarney 85 (Dublin) K. Grusmark/T. Piermarini
SUF First Episode S: Princess Dream -- (Freud) J. Buckley/J. Sone
SUF Louise Kimball S: Saint Anna -- (Kodiak Kowboy) D. Clarke/L. Perez

EVD John Henry S: Big Changes 86 (Midshipman) B. Cox/C. Hernandez

EMD Seattle Slew S: Sippin Fire -- (Harbor the Gold) S. Bullock/R. Bowen

[freddymo]

Congrats to the connections of Firenze Fire. That was some job by a very talented trainer. Obviously, an immensely talented emerging ever-improving talent that runs off the screen. In the 11th race of his career, this horse just improved about 11 lengths, NOW THAT IS TRAINING. A VERY generous 7.50 payoff to boot. The future is bright as connections believe his best distance will be 7 furlongs. I am excited to see him in the future!

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Congrats to the connections of Firenze Fire. That was some job by a very talented trainer. Obviously, an immensely talented emerging ever-improving talent that runs off the screen. In the 11th race of his career, this horse just improved about 11 lengths, NOW THAT IS TRAINING. A VERY generous 7.50 payoff to boot. The future is bright as connections believe his best distance will be 7 furlongs. I am excited to see him in the future!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cakes44

107 BSF for Firenze Fire... RUNNER

[cakes44]

17 point jump? Not bad!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by cakes44

17 point jump? Not bad!

Logical progression as the colt was a major G1 winner at Belmont already. We see these things happen with maturing 3-year-olds all the time, they change so much from month to month. Favorite track, best suited around one turn, good freshening off a Classic trail which really gave him an excellent foundation to cutback and be fruitful. I wonder if other trainers will take Jason's lead and use the Classics as a foundation builder in the future? Kudos to Servis, he has campaigned this colt nicely, the 107 was ALWAYS in the making.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Logical progression as the colt was a major G1 winner at Belmont already. We see these things happen with maturing 3-year-olds all the time, they change so much from month to month. Favorite track, best suited around one turn, good freshening off a Classic trail which really gave him an excellent foundation to cutback and be fruitful. I wonder if other trainers will take Jason's lead and use the Classics as a foundation builder in the future? Kudos to Servis, he has campaigned this colt nicely, the 107 was ALWAYS in the making.

When the wagering action on Firenze Fire is coupled with the way that the horse performed for his "hot" trainer, you would like to think that there would be some investigations started.

[Konk]

There won't be.
Nothing to see here.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

When the wagering action on Firenze Fire is coupled with the way that the horse performed for his "hot" trainer, you would like to think that there would be some investigations started.

Think its more likely Jason Servis picks up some helpful new owners that buy him some better "pedigreed" stock. The horses will test clear and the narratives will flow like I have suggested.

[freddymo]

Stolen from Tweet Kevin Cox: I would assume the numbers are reasonably accurate.


By my pencil and paper calculations, Jason Servis has won with 30 of his last 60 starters. The 24 winners ( excluding 5 first time starters & today's score ) averaged a Beyer increase of 13.4 points with a median of 18 points.

Very impressive numbers.

By my pencil & paper calculations, Jorge Navarro is 30 for his last 60 with an average Beyer improvement among his winners of 9.5 points and a median of 7 points.

And people say racing is dead? Dead? You just need the very best horseman and you are sure to be VERY alive.

Anybody who tells you racing is dead are idiots there are folks doing really nicely. It's a golden age

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Stolen from Tweet Kevin Cox: I would assume the numbers are reasonably accurate.


By my pencil and paper calculations, Jason Servis has won with 30 of his last 60 starters. The 24 winners ( excluding 5 first time starters & today's score ) averaged a Beyer increase of 13.4 points with a median of 18 points.

Very impressive numbers.

By my pencil & paper calculations, Jorge Navarro is 30 for his last 60 with an average Beyer improvement among his winners of 9.5 points and a median of 7 points.

And people say racing is dead? Dead? You just need the very best horseman and you are sure to be VERY alive.

Anybody who tells you racing is dead are idiots there are folks doing really nicely. It's a golden age

It would be nice if racing commentators stopped fawning over the "shrewd" owners who hire these trainers.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

When the wagering action on Firenze Fire.

Quite the action on FF late.
He entered the gate at 5-1.
His early flashes during the running of the race were 5-1.
He paid $7.50 to win.

[Konk]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Stolen from Tweet Kevin Cox: I would assume the numbers are reasonably accurate.


By my pencil and paper calculations, Jason Servis has won with 30 of his last 60 starters. The 24 winners ( excluding 5 first time starters & today's score ) averaged a Beyer increase of 13.4 points with a median of 18 points.

Very impressive numbers.

By my pencil & paper calculations, Jorge Navarro is 30 for his last 60 with an average Beyer improvement among his winners of 9.5 points and a median of 7 points.

And people say racing is dead? Dead? You just need the very best horseman and you are sure to be VERY alive.

Anybody who tells you racing is dead are idiots there are folks doing really nicely. It's a golden age

Is this common for horses to improve like that for these guys?
Did they do it last year? Is ~50% their standard?

Shall we expect it to continue, as the new standard?

Is it really the golden age for bettors when the odds drop so drastically long after the vast majority of them have any option to bet accordingly?

It certainly might be the golden age for those on the inside of the game who have this information and the ability to bet through special means.

Or will people finally say enough is enough and go home and bet on baseball?
Us idiots are noticing and we are questioning the game's integrity.

This kind of race makes a mockery of the entire game.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Konk

Is this common for horses to improve like that for these guys?
Did they do it last year? Is ~50% their standard?

Shall we expect it to continue, as the new standard?

Is it really the golden age for bettors when the odds drop so drastically long after the vast majority of them have any option to bet accordingly?

It certainly might be the golden age for those on the inside of the game who have this information and the ability to bet through special means.

Or will people finally say enough is enough and go home and bet on baseball?
Us idiots are noticing and we are questioning the game's integrity.

This kind of race makes a mockery of the entire game.

Are you kidding me? Phipps is selling the only decent horses they have. Wait till you get a load of Snap Decision Revved Up and Fire Away etc once they find their way to real horsemen that know how to train a good horse, these tired old trainers that have no clue how to train the Modern TB are dinosaurs, bring on the new guys that can get them to RUN... How isn't it the Golden Age?

[Konk]

Sadly, I thing you believe that.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Konk

Sadly, I think you believe that.

He doesn't. He's being facetious.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

He doesn't. He's being facetious.

Please try to use words Freddy understands.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Please try to use words Freddy understands.

Your thoughts on Firenze Fire?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Your thoughts on Firenze Fire?

As I said many times before, he should be running only in 7F to on mile races around one turn.

[Konk]

Originally Posted by Konk

Sadly, I thing you believe that.

OK...