Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Stakes Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-18-2013, 08:37 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,279
Default 2/23 (GP): Fountain of Youth, Canadian Turf, Davona Dale (G2's)

(Post Time: 4:35) Surface: Dirt
Davona Dale S.
1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds | G2 STAKES | Purse: $250,000

PP HORSE JOCKEY TRAINER CLAIM $ EQUIP. MED.
1 Private Ensign J. Castellano
116 Lbs D. Romans - L
2 Lady Banks J. Rocco, Jr.
116 Lbs R. Lawrence, Jr. - L
3 Dreaming of Julia J. Velazquez
122 Lbs T. Pletcher - L
4 Live Lively J. Rosario
116 Lbs M. Hennig - L
5 Twice Told Tale E. Prado
116 Lbs R. Nicks - L


(Post Time: 5:05) Surface: Turf
Canadian Turf S.
1 Mile | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up | G3 STAKES | Purse: $150,000

PP HORSE JOCKEY TRAINER CLAIM $ EQUIP. MED.
1 Joes Blazing Aaron J. Velazquez
117 Lbs E. Kenneally - L
2 Beau Choix L. Saez
117 Lbs B. Tagg - L
3 Howe Great J. Rosario
117 Lbs H. Motion - L
4 Data Link J. Castellano
123 Lbs C. McGaughey III - L
5 Cash Rules E. Trujillo
119 Lbs D. Fawkes - L
6 Empire Builder J. Castanon
117 Lbs L. Duco - L
7 Global Power P. Lopez
119 Lbs J. Gibson - L
8 Scatman E. Prado
117 Lbs W. Mott - L
9 Night Party S. Sellers
117 Lbs P. Huffman - L
10 Za Approval J. Bravo
117 Lbs C. Clement - L
MTO Gourmet Dinner S. Madrid
119 Lbs B. Brown - L


(Post Time: 5:35) Surface: Dirt
Fasig-Tipton Fountain of Youth S.
1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds | G2 STAKES | Purse: $400,000

PP HORSE JOCKEY TRAINER CLAIM $ EQUIP. MED.
1 Orb J. Velazquez
116 Lbs C. McGaughey III - L
2 Joshua's Comprise E. Prado
116 Lbs B. Rose - L
3 Violence J. Castellano
122 Lbs T. Pletcher - L
4 Majestic Hussar L. Saez
116 Lbs E. Kenneally - L
5 Elmutahid J. Bravo
116 Lbs K. McLaughlin -
6 Cerro (IRE) J. Rocco, Jr.
116 Lbs H. Motion - L
7 Sky Captain P. Husbands
116 Lbs M. Casse - L
8 Speak Logistics J. Rosario
116 Lbs E. Plesa, Jr. - L
9 He's Had Enough M. Gutierrez
116 Lbs D. O'Neill - L
10 Falling Sky J. Espinoza
120 Lbs J. Terranova, II - L
11 Sr. Quisqueyano C. Olivero
118 Lbs L. Olivares - L
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-19-2013, 08:35 PM
GPK GPK is offline
5'8".. but all man!
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 3 miles from Chateuax de la Blaha
Posts: 21,706
Default

Interested to see how Za Approval fares in his stakes debut. Comes into this awfully sharp. I know he scratched out of the Tampa Bay last Saturday. I wonder if the softer ground had anything to do with that or if he just preferred this spot?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-23-2013, 11:31 AM
cakes44's Avatar
cakes44 cakes44 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,744
Default

Take Patrick Husbands off of Sky Captain and I'd probably take a big shot. I know jockeys don't do the running, but he is inept.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-23-2013, 10:22 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,279
Default

Orb 97
Live Lively 96
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-23-2013, 10:34 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Seeing a lot of comments about the fractions for the FOY. Pat?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-24-2013, 07:57 AM
Calzone Lord's Avatar
Calzone Lord Calzone Lord is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,552
Default

FWIW, I hand-timed the fractions of both the Fountain of Youth and Davona Dale.

I got 1:09.19 and 1:09.20 in my two tries for the FoY. The official fraction was 1:08.85


I got 1:10.59 and 1:10.64 for the Davona Dale. The official fraction was 1:10.21

I went back and hand-timed fractions from other 8.5f dirt races at GP from earlier days, and I always consistently get times .30 to .45 slower -- which is probably just the camera angle bias.

Calling the distances of these races 8.5 furlong races are misleading. They are closer to 9f races because of the huge amount of run-up before the horses get to the timing beam.

The 4th quarter mile of these races are run around a turn ... and the final 1/16th are straight-away.

I don't have a problem with the 1:08.85 clocking only because it appears consistent with how the other races at 8.5f at GP are clocked. Maybe they gave the FoY a little more run-up than usual to help the outside posts, but all races at this distance seem to get huge run-up anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-24-2013, 09:52 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,939
Default

doug, what do you think of Orb and how he's progressing?
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-24-2013, 12:46 PM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default

Jay Privman‏@DRFPrivman

Violence suffered a fractured right front sesamoid in FOY. No surgery, but racing career in doubt, per Pletcher.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-24-2013, 01:02 PM
cmorioles's Avatar
cmorioles cmorioles is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Moore, OK
Posts: 3,169
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by my miss storm cat View Post
Jay Privman‏@DRFPrivman

Violence suffered a fractured right front sesamoid in FOY. No surgery, but racing career in doubt, per Pletcher.
I know I'm shocked.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-24-2013, 01:06 PM
hoovesupsideyourhead's Avatar
hoovesupsideyourhead hoovesupsideyourhead is offline
"The Kentucky Killing Machine"
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: florida
Posts: 16,277
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cmorioles View Post
I know I'm shocked.
LOL..jj needs a slap for that ride..if the goal is to make it to the derby
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.