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Old 07-22-2015, 04:02 PM
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Default 7/25-26 (DMR): San Diego (G2), Fleet Treat; Bing Crosby (G1)

SAT 3rd (3:09) Fleet Treat S.

7 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Patsy G and Me Talamo J 119 L
2 Big Book Bejarano R 121 L
3 Sheer Pleasure Baze T C 125 L
4 Missy Mouse Van Dyke D 121 L
5 Ashley's Sassy Smith M E 117 L
6 Kiss At Midnight Graham J 117 L
7 Abets Abet Pereira T J 117 L



SAT 8th (5:40) San Diego H. (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Nowalking Pereira T J 115 L
2 Appealing Tale Talamo J 116 L
3 Hoppertunity Smith M E 121 L
4 Bayern Garcia M 123 L
5 Majestic City Baze T C 118 L
6 Catch a Flight (ARG) Stevens G L 120 L
7 Sammy Mandeville Bejarano R 115 L
8 Sahara Sky Graham J 117 L
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Old 07-22-2015, 05:55 PM
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Bayern by 6. Gets back on track in a big way.
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:09 PM
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Or he finishes out of the money and retires. Probably not many other possibilities in between for this horse.
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:17 PM
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Or he finishes out of the money and retires. Probably not many other possibilities in between for this horse.
I guess I agree as he is hot or cold, hit or miss type. But this is clearly the easiest spot for him yet this year. The Churchill race field might have been softer overall, but when he broke slowly he had no prayer. In this spot he will be fine even with a slow start, even though it's obviously not ideal.
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Old 07-22-2015, 09:19 PM
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I'm a huge fan and hope he bounces back.
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Old 07-23-2015, 05:39 AM
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Not saying I'm not with you...it's just been a rough start for him so far this year. What are you thinking for price?
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Old 07-23-2015, 07:46 AM
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Not saying I'm not with you...it's just been a rough start for him so far this year. What are you thinking for price?
7-5, if that. He is a BC Classic winner. I won't be betting, just hoping he bounces back.
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Old 07-23-2015, 04:42 PM
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SUN 6TH (4:40) Bing Crosby S. (G1)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Kobe's Back Stevens G L 119 L
2 Distinctiv Passion Maldonado E 119 L
3 Caminetto Garcia M 119 L
4 Wild Dude Prat F 121 L
5 Masochistic Baze T C 123 L
6 Appealing Tale Talamo J 119 L



SUN 8TH (5:40) California Dreamin' H.

1 1/16 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Poshsky Prat F 116 Blk-Off L
2 Ambitious Brew Gonzalez S 119 L
3 Rock Me Baby Nakatani C S 120 L
4 Aotearoa Graham J 114 L
5 Weewinnin Talamo J 116 Blk-Off L
6 Lucky J Lane Bejarano R 117 L
7 Patriots Rule Perez F H 120 L
8 Awesome Return Smith M E 123 L
9 G. G. Ryder Garcia M 121 L
10 Temple Keys Baze T C 114 L
11 Surfcup Maldonado E 118 L
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Yeah Bayern is dunzo.
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Yeah Bayern is dunzo.
No doubt. Not even sure that was a Grade 2 field and he couldn't keep up with Appealing Tale.
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:14 PM
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It was an improvement at least. And Bayern had to duel Appealing Tale.

But, a GI level horse with his resume should outduel Appealing Tale and kick on.
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:25 PM
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It was an improvement at least. And Bayern had to duel Appealing Tale.

But, a GI level horse with his resume should outduel Appealing Tale and kick on.
An improvement? Was there any other way to go from his last?
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:32 PM
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An improvement? Was there any other way to go from his last?
I guess not.

In his last two races, I thought the presence of Private Zone is what messed him up. It sounds like the track was deep and tiring, and maybe Appealing Tale is a better horse than given credit for.
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:37 PM
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Appealing Tale showed heart and guts, beat Bayern fair and square.
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:43 PM
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An improvement? Was there any other way to go from his last?
I think he's done. I mean at least he.broke today, so that was a positive. But the 2 outran him fair and square. Then the 6 beats them all. Bayern is a little like Commentator, they both were hit or miss, and needed things to go there way. When things did they both could run monster races.
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Old 07-26-2015, 07:49 AM
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List your worst 3 BCC winners from the 2008-2014 group + Cat Thief and Volponi. My list(worst being number 1) is:

1. Drosselmeyer
2. Bayern
3. Volponi
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Old 07-26-2015, 09:04 AM
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Bayern is just off form and is no longer same horse, he's hardly the worse BCC winner. He was a legit winner and was a good horse
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Old 07-26-2015, 10:23 AM
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I think he's done. I mean at least he.broke today, so that was a positive. But the 2 outran him fair and square. Then the 6 beats them all. Bayern is a little like Commentator, they both were hit or miss, and needed things to go there way. When things did they both could run monster races.
Commentator's issue was mostly soundness. Although he could be beaten in a heated duel (like the sub :44 half in the Tom Fool) or when hounded by rabbits (Woodward), he certainly held his own or overcame strong pace setups numbers times.

If you follow his race record, you will note that most of his losses were succeeded by layoffs on average of about 6 months. I believe he had an old shin fracture, and those often limit the number of starts a horse can make in one season, but they tend not to affect a horse's class or ability. Fortunately, he was gelded, so he was often brought back to the races.

Bayern on the other hand, has folded like a cheap suit repeatedly, and more so this year than last. Perhaps whatever held him back from making his 4yo debut this year has also caused him to lose a step (or two).
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