Weekend Stakes Beyers: Paradise Woods 107; Irish War Cry 101

[Kasept]

SA Santa Anita Derby (G1): Gormley 88 (Malibu Moon) J. Shirreffs/V. Espinoza
SA Santa Anita Oaks (G1): Paradise Woods 107 (Union Rags) R. Mandella/F. Prat
SA Royal Heroine S (G2): Hillhouse High 95 (Exchange Rate) R. Baltas/C. Nakatani
SA Echo Eddie S: Mr. Hinx 80 (Ministers Wild Cat) S. Miyadi/T. Baze
SA Evening Jewel S: S Y Sky 82 (Grazen) P. D'Amato/J. Talamo
SA Providencia S (G3): Sircat Sally 78 (Surf Cat) J. Hollendorfer/M. Smith
SA Santa Paula S: Union Strike 89 (Union Rags) M. Ruis/B. Blanc

KEE Blue Grass S (G2): Irap 93 (Tiznow) D. O'Neill/J. Leparoux
KEE Ashland S (G1): Sailor's Valentine 77 (Mizzen Mast) E. Kenneally/C. Lanerie
KEE Madison S (G1): Paulassilverlining 90 (Ghostzapper) C. Brown/J. Ortiz
KEE Commonwealth S (G3): Awesome Slew 102 (Awesome Again) M. Casse/J. Rosario
KEE Shakertown S (G2): Holding Gold 100 (Lonhro-AUS) M. Casse/J. Rosario
KEE Beaumont S (G3): Sweet Loretta 90 (Tapit) T. Pletcher/J. Castellano
KEE Transylvania S. (G3): Big Score 90 (Mr. Big) T. Yakteen/J. Castellano

AQU Wood Memorial S. (G2): Irish War Cry 101 (Curlin) H. Motion/R. Maragh
AQU Carter H (G1): Green Gratto 98 (Here's Zealous) G. Grant/C. DeCarlo
AQU Gazelle S (G2): Miss Sky Warrior 94 (First Samura) K. Breen/P. Lopez
AQU Bay Shore S (G3): Long Haul Bay 88 (Quality Road) C. Brown/M. Franco
AQU Excelsior S (G3) : Send It In 119 (Big Brown) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
AQU Distaff H (G3): Highway Star 93 (Girolamo) R. Ubillo/A. Arroyo
AQU Danger's Hour S: Macagone 102 (Artie Schiller) W. Mott/K. Carmouche

OP Carousel S: Illussion Artist 92 (Drosselmeyer) B. Cox/R. Eramia
OP Arkansas Breeders' S: Racer 74 (Jonesboro) T. Martin/J. Court

[cakes44]

Same variant for the entire card at Aqueduct?

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Same variant for the entire card at Aqueduct?

Will let NTamm answer officially, but would say yes. Weather was perfect all day. The heavy rain 24 hours earlier contributed to track being very fast.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Will let NTamm answer officially, but would say yes. Weather was perfect all day. The heavy rain 24 hours earlier contributed to track being very fast.

Yes. One variant for the card.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Yes. One variant.

Contessa's horse ran incredibly well. Geez are Send it In and Tu Brutus ready to run with Arrogate..I dont know something does not seem kosher

[dpkovalesky]

Wow that Paradise Woods was some effort and #. Guess she's a pretty solid favorite for the oaks now

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by dpkovalesky

Wow that Paradise Woods was some effort and #. Guess she's a pretty solid favorite for the oaks now

Based on the BSF's, Paradise Woods ran about 3.5-4 lengths faster than Irish War Cry, and would have to have been given some betting attention in the Derby itself if she were in the race.

[Alabama Stakes]

119 seems too high. Where did they cone up with that ?

[Kasept]

KEE Beaumont S (G3): Sweet Loretta 90 (Tapit) T. Pletcher/J. Castellano

AQU Distaff H (G3): Highway Star 93 (Girolamo) R. Ubillo/A. Arroyo
AQU Danger's Hour S: Macagone 102 (Artie Schiller) W. Mott/K. Carmouche

SA Santa Paula S: Union Strike 89 (Union Rags) M. Ruis/B. Blanc

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Kasept

KEE Ashland S (G1): Sailor's Valentine 77 (Mizzen Mast) E. Kenneally/C. Lanerie

Has to be the worst G1 BSF figure ever. Any idea what the Thorograph figure is?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Has to be the worst G1 BSF figure ever. Any idea what the Thorograph figure is?

I think some horse won the Frizette a few years ago with a fig in the 50s, but yeah, that was ugly.

[Alabama Stakes]

How can s hoss who ran the last half mile of a 10 furlong race in 51 earn a 119 ?
2:02 is a 119 ? I'd love to see other examples of this phenomenon. Please spare me the " well the track was slow that day lame excuse. "

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think some horse won the Frizette a few years ago with a fig in the 50s, but yeah, that was ugly.

Was it Sutra? That was an awful race...might have snuck into the 60s for a BSF.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Was it Sutra? That was an awful race...might have snuck into the 60s for a BSF.

I think that was a 68

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think that was a 68

It was like a 57 or a 59. Just brutal. But this is amongst the lowest I've seen for a non-2yo G1.

@Alabama Stakes, With respect to the AQU figures...they are correct. There's an 18 point difference in time between the Wood and Excelsior, and 7 more to the Gazelle. If you think the Excelsior is wrong, drop the other two as well.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think that was a 68

68 is correct..

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by UncleBenelli

Can't believe the only questioning is the figures from Aqu.. As big of an effort that Gormley gained, he didn't even have the biggest effort in the race. Royal Mo has hidden value in his last two and is a big player for the Derby.
Just like this thread and other articles I have read since last Sat, folks seem to always discount the west coast preps. Just spit balling here, but in the last 10 years, how many derby winners have come out of Santa Anita?

Good performances that are slow are just that

[NTamm1215]

Have they crossed the wire yet in the SA Derby?

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Have they crossed the wire yet in the SA Derby?

What's par for a NW1 at SA 87?

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by UncleBenelli

Just like this thread and other articles I have read since last Sat, folks seem to always discount the west coast preps.

They should since they have been atrocious. The CA 3yo contingent was exposed all the way back in November, when neither Klimt nor Gormley made any impact on the BC Juvenile, despite the race being run on their home track.

The early West Coast preps were indeed weak as they weren't even truly run races, essentially amounting to match races. The Sham featured the seasoned Gormley against recent maiden sprint winner American Anthem, and Gormley just got the better of the latter. Hardly evidence of progression. Both were frightfully exposed in their subsequent appearances featuring more experienced rivals and more contentious pace scenarios.

The Robert Lewis was also a match race, between recent maiden breaker Royal Mo and maiden Irap. Royal Mo predictably led the charge as he was essentially winning his second consecutive maiden special weight. Irap stayed a maiden for a couple more starts despite racing at Sunland Park. Royal Mo was humiliated in the Rebel when facing a full field with a contentious pace.

Besides Gormley and Royal Mo, the other horses CA is offering up are Battle of Midway, Sonneteer, and Irap.

I wouldn't bet Battle of Midway unless he got 3 months off and returned on the grass.

I wouldn't bet Sonneteer even if he ran in a maiden special weight.

I wouldn't bet Irap even if he ran in a maiden special weight.