Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Stakes Archive
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 09-27-2017, 05:17 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,244
Default 9/30-10/1 (SA): Super Sat. (5 G1's), Unzip Me; John Henry (G2)



__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-27-2017, 05:23 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,244
Default

SATURDAY OVERNIGHT
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-27-2017, 06:58 PM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default

I was looking forward to Dia De Pago stretching out here. Any word?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-27-2017, 07:15 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

In general these are ok fields and races, but man that zenyatta stakes is bad, grade 3 at best
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-27-2017, 07:23 PM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Other then the Juvenile races i dont see any real BC contenders.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-27-2017, 07:34 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,244
Default Sunday, 10/1

SUNDAY OVERNIGHT

__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-27-2017, 07:36 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
Other then the Juvenile races i dont see any real BC contenders.
most of the BC contenders are on the sidelines not running. Its great aint it
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-27-2017, 08:11 PM
cakes44's Avatar
cakes44 cakes44 is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,744
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
Other then the Juvenile races i dont see any real BC contenders.
Not Dortmund?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-27-2017, 09:44 PM
Indian Charlie's Avatar
Indian Charlie Indian Charlie is offline
Goodwood
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Southern Maine
Posts: 8,708
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cakes44 View Post
Not Dortmund?
Wrong trainer.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-27-2017, 11:16 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

No offense to the trainers that trained Mubtaahij but they are not baffert, have to take a shot he runs his best race in this spot. Its not much a field beyond Cupid who was only ok. Against Breakin Lucky in this spot, there is no gun runner but this is a better group then he has faced and will be overbet off that last.

Dortmund may get a great setup on the lead, I could bet him at the right price (6/1 or so seems fair).
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-28-2017, 10:11 AM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up View Post
No offense to the trainers that trained Mubtaahij but they are not baffert, have to take a shot he runs his best race in this spot. Its not much a field beyond Cupid who was only ok. Against Breakin Lucky in this spot, there is no gun runner but this is a better group then he has faced and will be overbet off that last.

Dortmund may get a great setup on the lead, I could bet him at the right price (6/1 or so seems fair).
6-1. He is going to be like 3-1.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-28-2017, 10:31 AM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
6-1. He is going to be like 3-1.
oh that would be good cause I would rather bet the first time baffert horse
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-28-2017, 10:43 AM
RHT2004 RHT2004 is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 4,829
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up View Post
oh that would be good cause I would rather bet the first time baffert horse
He feels like the most likely winner to me. His Saratoga race from last summer certainly wins this.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-28-2017, 11:50 AM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RHT2004 View Post
He feels like the most likely winner to me. His Saratoga race from last summer certainly wins this.
meh, dortmund scratched so likely no value in race. god its hard to bet this game
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-28-2017, 04:46 PM
Seattleallstar's Avatar
Seattleallstar Seattleallstar is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,866
Default

all those races on opening weekend and Gary Stevens is not riding in one of them
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-28-2017, 04:52 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,244
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattleallstar View Post
all those races on opening weekend and Gary Stevens is not riding in one of them
He has a mount in the Chandelier, would have ridden Dortmund had he not come out and is on the first AE into the Unzip Me. And has 5 other non-stake calls Fri-Sun.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-28-2017, 05:21 PM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is offline
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,244
Default

__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-28-2017, 05:30 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattleallstar View Post
all those races on opening weekend and Gary Stevens is not riding in one of them
He has not ridden that much in general this year. I think part of that has been Prat's emergence with some of the barns that used Stevens and also Kent's strong season.

Really as hired guns go, which is what he is, there just isnt that much stock to go around.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-29-2017, 11:19 AM
Seattleallstar's Avatar
Seattleallstar Seattleallstar is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,866
Default

thanks guys Im a diehard fan and realize this is probably the last few months of him riding.

I even noticed that Thomas Proctor is not using him, along with Mandella
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-29-2017, 12:32 PM
10 pnt move up's Avatar
10 pnt move up 10 pnt move up is offline
Oriental Park
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,745
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattleallstar View Post
thanks guys Im a diehard fan and realize this is probably the last few months of him riding.

I even noticed that Thomas Proctor is not using him, along with Mandella
Proctor has been using Van Dyke who also has really become a favorite of Glen Hill Farm, basically giving them first call and traveling to ride their horses.

I dont think Stevens is doing anything differenct. I dont think he works horses so that has to hurt as well, very few guys can not work horses and still get premium mounts.
__________________
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"...Voltaire
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.