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Old 07-30-2013, 07:10 AM
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Default 8/3-4 (SAR): Whitney (G1), De La Rose; Vanderbilt (G1)

9th (5:12) De La Rose S.

1 Mile (Inner turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Open Water Rocco J S Jr 116 L
2 Sweet Little Lion Rosario J 123 L
3 Laugh Out Loud (GB) Castellano J J 116 FTL
4 Assateague Saez L 116 L
5 Baffle Me Ortiz I Jr 116 L
6 Ruthenia Lezcano J 123 L
7 Embarr Morales P 123 L
8 Miss Montreal Velazquez J R 116 L



10th (5:45) Whitney Invitational H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Successful Dan Leparoux J R 118 L
2 Mucho Macho Man Prado E S 119 L
3 Fort Larned Hernandez B J Jr 122 L
4 Cross Traffic Velazquez J R 117 L
5 Ron the Greek Lezcano J 118 L
6 Alpha Rosario J 115 L
7 Csaba Saez L 114 L
8 Fast Falcon Alvarado J 114 L
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Old 07-30-2013, 08:39 AM
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Fort Larned
Successful Dan
Cross Traffic
Mucho Macho Man
Csaba
Ron the Greek
Fast Falcon
Alpha

Draw in paddock Wednesday 11a..
That's a tremendous group!
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Old 07-30-2013, 12:59 PM
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Salty and Serious!.......nice bunch
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Old 07-30-2013, 01:11 PM
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Salty and Serious!.......nice bunch
I cant recall Successful Dans form but looks like a 2 horse race to me between cross traffic and fort larned.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:25 PM
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Mucho Macho Man and Ron the Greek are no slouches...
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:28 PM
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Mucho Macho Man and Ron the Greek are no slouches...

They can both be wildly inconsistent.
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:36 PM
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Absolutely, but either of them could win this thing too. Heck, I wouldn't even count Fast Falcon out of it.
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Old 07-30-2013, 07:42 PM
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Absolutely, but either of them could win this thing too. Heck, I wouldn't even count Fast Falcon out of it.
I dont like Macho at all. I think he is finished. Greeks best race can win, especially if this thing falls apart late and it could if the 2 chalks have 2 hook up.
Falcon is dangerous. Zito is always dangerous in these spots. But now the 2 chalks will run 1-2 around the track.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:09 PM
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I'm a huge Cross Traffic fan, but he may be too fast early to beat this quality of field going two turns.
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Old 07-30-2013, 11:17 PM
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I'm a huge Cross Traffic fan, but he may be too fast early to beat this quality of field going two turns.
Hard not to be a fan of him. He just keeps throwing bang up races. Fort Learned figures to be all over him right from the start. Should be fun.
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Wow that is a nice field!
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Old 08-01-2013, 02:49 PM
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A good rule of thumb for Fort Larned: bet him if he's not favored, but go against him when he is favored. Money burner last 3 times he's been favored, including twice at odds on. But when he's overlooked, he's dangerous. Seen that he's 7-5 on the morning line, it looks like time to go against him.
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Old 08-01-2013, 03:20 PM
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A good rule of thumb for Fort Larned: bet him if he's not favored, but go against him when he is favored. Money burner last 3 times he's been favored, including twice at odds on. But when he's overlooked, he's dangerous. Seen that he's 7-5 on the morning line, it looks like time to go against him.
I think Cross Traffic can go off the post time favorite.
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Old 08-01-2013, 03:23 PM
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Cross Traffic can definitely win the race, but I'd be surprised if he went off at lower odds than Fort Larned. Although he's been very impressive, he hasn't run beyond a mile while FL not only won last year's Whitney, he won last year's BC Classic and is coming off a 116 Beyer.
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:06 PM
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Steve, any reason why Fast Bullet is not in the Vanderbilt? I see that he is working every week at Del Mar. Would have been quite a race with him included...
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Old 08-01-2013, 05:30 PM
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Steve, any reason why Fast Bullet is not in the Vanderbilt? I see that he is working every week at Del Mar. Would have been quite a race with him included...
I know they talked about him coming for the Forego with Paynter (Woodward)..
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SUNDAY 9th (5:12) Alfred G. Vanderbilt H. (G1)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Bahamian Squall Saez L 119 L
2 Gentlemen's Bet Rosario J 116 L
3 Delaunay Napravnik R 120 L
4 Justin Phillip Velazquez J R 118 L
5 Caixa Eletronica Castellano J J 116 L
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Steve, any reason why Fast Bullet is not in the Vanderbilt? I see that he is working every week at Del Mar. Would have been quite a race with him included...
Amazingly, he has worked 6 times since his last start and still is not ready.
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Old 08-01-2013, 06:28 PM
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SUNDAY 9th (5:12) Alfred G. Vanderbilt H. (G1)

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Bahamian Squall Saez L 119 L
2 Gentlemen's Bet Rosario J 116 L
3 Delaunay Napravnik R 120 L
4 Justin Phillip Velazquez J R 118 L
5 Caixa Eletronica Castellano J J 116 L
Caixa on short rest...You have to love this horse
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Caixa on short rest...You have to love this horse
400k and 5 horses
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