Any horses/win bets in this year's BC

Gander · #1 10-13-2009, 10:55 AM

Are there any horses you are looking forward to making win bets on or using as singles in vertical wagers in any of the races?

Its usually a really good day to make win bets because you are getting like 5 or 6/1 on horses that usually are no more than 5/2 or 3/1.

cakes44 · #2 10-13-2009, 11:05 AM

I'll do you one better. I will likely hammer an Informed Decision/Ventura ex box regardless of who else is in the field and without even looking at the form.

VOL JACK · #3 10-13-2009, 11:10 AM

Im looking forward to betting against Zen&Zen.

Gander · #4 10-13-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

I'll do you one better. I will likely hammer an Informed Decision/Ventura ex box regardless of who else is in the field and without even looking at the form.

I thought Ventura is running in the BC Mile? After she spanked that nice field in Woodbine, I thought it was pretty much a no brainer she is going to this race instead of trying to defend in the filly/mare sprint?

Scav · #5 10-13-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

I'll do you one better. I will likely hammer an Informed Decision/Ventura ex box regardless of who else is in the field and without even looking at the form.

Exactly....

pweizer · #6 10-13-2009, 12:34 PM

Besides the fact that this exacta will pay about $8, the Godolphin runners pointed to that race are no slouches.

Paul

Cannon Shell · #7 10-13-2009, 12:56 PM

I'm waiting until PG1985 gives me his advice before i do anything

jms62 · #8 10-13-2009, 01:16 PM

The value Breeders cup day is in Rolling the P3's. I usually play a large caveman and a few more isolated plays per race.

Sightseek · #9 10-13-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm waiting until PG1985 gives me his advice before i do anything

Solid strategy.

richard · #10 10-13-2009, 01:19 PM

I will play Jung Man Scott .

jms62 · #11 10-13-2009, 01:20 PM

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I will play Jung Man Scott .

If I recall he is out.. Injuried last out

richard · #12 10-13-2009, 01:38 PM

ohh i'm sorry to hear that but thanks. hope he recovers . a fracture of his right front to be repaired surgically, according to a note on pedigreequery. it says there that ieah also bought into him .

smuthg · #13 10-13-2009, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

I thought Ventura is running in the BC Mile? After she spanked that nice field in Woodbine, I thought it was pretty much a no brainer she is going to this race instead of trying to defend in the filly/mare sprint?

I think you'd be crazy to pass up any of the sprint races for a shot at Goldikova.

Gander · #14 10-13-2009, 02:16 PM

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I think you'd be crazy to pass up any of the sprint races for a shot at Goldikova.

I think Ventura would give Goldikova all she could handle.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 10-13-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm waiting until PG1985 gives me his advice before i do anything

I will play Cowboy Cal and Court Vision in the mile. Zensational cant lose, and he might be 7-5 with the likes of Fatal Bullet and Gayego... Wont bet him to win but will single him in every pick 3 that I cant. Just as Well might have a shot in the turf. Zenyatta will win the Classic if she runs there.

RolloTomasi · #16 10-13-2009, 02:57 PM

Assuming he duplicates his last, Gayego looks like a near certainty in the Sprint.

Haven't seen the East coast contenders, but since they haven't tasted the Pro-Ride anyways, I think Lookin At Lucky will be tough to beat in the Juvenile at this point.

It will be interesting to see if Parading ends up in the Dirt Mile. Not sure why he's been so eager in his last two, but if he can settle a little further off the pace, it might give his jock a better shot of timing his move to a more appropriate point in the race. He's been bet down in his last 2, I'm sure he'll be a very round number if McGaughey enters him.

RolloTomasi · #17 10-13-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I will play Cowboy Cal and Court Vision in the mile. Zensational cant lose, and he might be 7-5 with the likes of Fatal Bullet and Gayego... Wont bet him to win but will single him in every pick 3 that I cant. Just as Well might have a shot in the turf. Zenyatta will win the Classic if she runs there.

Cowboy Cal ran huge over the weekend, but have to think the effort might have put him over the top. His 0-for record in Grade 1 races, plus his vulnerability down the lane, make him sketchy at best in the Mile. The Dirt Mile would be a better fit in terms of class, experience (2 for 2 at Santa Anita), and race setup.

RockHardTen1985 · #18 10-13-2009, 03:00 PM

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Assuming he duplicates his last, Gayego looks like a near certainty in the Sprint.

Haven't seen the East coast contenders, but since they haven't tasted the Pro-Ride anyways, I think Lookin At Lucky will be tough to beat in the Juvenile at this point.

It will be interesting to see if Parading ends up in the Dirt Mile. Not sure why he's been so eager in his last two, but if he can settle a little further off the pace, it might give his jock a better shot of timing his move to a more appropriate point in the race. He's been bet down in his last 2, I'm sure he'll be a very round number if McGaughey enters him.

Agree about Looking at Lucky, he might be 6-5 or lower. DRF article said if Parading did not win his last, SHug was shipping him back East and no Breeders Cup.
How can Gayego be a near lock? What about Zensational?

RolloTomasi · #19 10-13-2009, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Agree about Looking at Lucky, he might be 6-5 or lower. DRF article said if Parading did not win his last, SHug was shipping him back East and no Breeders Cup.
How can Gayego be a near lock? What about Zensational?

He might have a change of heart as far as the Dirt Mile is concerned, but the Classic is probably out.

Seems like many people are viewing the Dirt Mile as a secondary race (eg Dick Mandella with Crown Of Thorns) to avoid the real heavy hitters. This only validates that ultimately the race probably takes away from both the Sprint and the Classic.

Beyond the "preview" races at Oak Tree and Belmont, the Breeder's Cup is even ruining their own original championship races.

cakes44 · #20 10-13-2009, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Agree about Looking at Lucky, he might be 6-5 or lower. DRF article said if Parading did not win his last, SHug was shipping him back East and no Breeders Cup.
How can Gayego be a near lock? What about Zensational?

There's almost always $$ to be made trying to beat speedballs like Zensational in the BC Sprint. I'll be staying the heck away from him. If he wins that race with his style, he'll have to be an absolute monster. Maybe he is?