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Old 12-05-2020, 10:27 AM
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Default 12/6 (AQU): Garland of Roses, NYSS-5th Avenue, NYSS-Great White Way





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Old 12-06-2020, 03:51 PM
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250k for the NYB races sums the state of the game up very well.
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Old 12-06-2020, 04:29 PM
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250k for the NYB races sums the state of the game up very well.
That's very unfair. First, they're not NY bred races, they're sire series races. Every state bred program has them and they're important. They're designed to encourage breeders to use stallions in the state as opposed to sending every mare to KY to be covered. There's an economic impact dollar value to every NY-sired foal and it more than offsets the stakes purses.
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Old 12-06-2020, 06:04 PM
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That's very unfair. First, they're not NY bred races, they're sire series races. Every state bred program has them and they're important. They're designed to encourage breeders to use stallions in the state as opposed to sending every mare to KY to be covered. There's an economic impact dollar value to every NY-sired foal and it more than offsets the stakes purses.


They ran for more in the races today than in the Remsen and Demoiselle yesterday and they were the same purse as the Cigar Mile...a grade 1 race.

I didn’t say they weren’t important but there’s no way anyone can justify the purses for those horses being the same as a grade 1 race. I’d rather see the Cigar at 500k and the races today at 125k each. I bet the fields would have been the same for the NY “sire series” at 125k. Maybe that’s why the Clark drew a full field and the Cigar didn’t?
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Old 12-06-2020, 06:25 PM
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They ran for more in the races today than in the Remsen and Demoiselle yesterday and they were the same purse as the Cigar Mile...a grade 1 race.

I bet the fields would have been the same for the NY “sire series” at 125k.
Had to do it to keep the Laoban horses out of the open company races. Got the exacta in the fillies division, but I guess the colt ate it at the start at odds-on after running fairly well in the BC.

Should go back to normal next year, since Winstar bought up Laoban right before the BC. Wouldn't want NY to be home to a top caliber stallion...though I suppose his owners needed the money.
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