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Old 02-06-2013, 10:45 AM
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KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER 2013 Pool 1

Morning Line odds by Mike Battaglia

1. Capo Bastone - 30-1
2. Code West - 50-1
3. Delhomme - 30-1
4. Den’s Legacy - 30-1
5. Dynamic Sky - 30-1
6. Falling Sky - 30-1

7. Flashback -15-1
8. Frac Daddy - 50-1
9. Goldencents - 20-1
10. He’s Had Enough - 50-1
11. Itsmyluckyday - 15-1
12. Mylute - 30-1

13. Normandy Invasion - 20-1
14. Overanalyze - 15-1
15. Oxbow - 20-1
16. Revolutionary - 20-1
17. Shanghai Bobby - 12-1
18. Super Ninety Nine - 20-1

19. Uncaptured - 20-1
20. Verrazano - 15-1
21. Violence - 12-1
22. Vyjack (g) - 20-1
23. Will Take Charge - 30-1
24. All Others - 9-5

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Old 02-06-2013, 11:34 AM
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where are Fire and Rain, and Little Distorted ?
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:43 AM
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where are Fire and Rain, and Little Distorted ?
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Old 02-06-2013, 01:00 PM
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where are Fire and Rain, and Little Distorted ?
These are Derby futures, not April N1X races at Keeneland.
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Old 02-06-2013, 07:13 PM
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where are Fire and Rain, and Little Distorted ?
Why do you care about these horses? Shouldn't you be excited on the 20-1 you are getting on Revolutionary.

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Old 02-08-2013, 01:43 PM
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any suggestions for exactas for pool1
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:20 PM
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I Will Be Surprised If Flashback Is 15-1.....
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:19 PM
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Any chance all 23 don't even make the Derby? All of these horses have to either finish 1 or 2 in a big race to even qualify,what happens if we get 4 of these pool horses in the FL Derby or Arkansas Derby? It gonna leave 2 in each race with 40 points or less total

I know it makes alot more sense but the new points thing has taken me out of these early races since have no clue if they will even make it
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Old 02-09-2013, 06:01 PM
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KENTUCKY DERBY FUTURE WAGER 2013 Pool 1

Morning Line odds by Mike Battaglia

1. Capo Bastone - 30-1
2. Code West - 50-1
3. Delhomme - 30-1
4. Den’s Legacy - 30-1
5. Dynamic Sky - 30-1
6. Falling Sky - 30-1

7. Flashback -15-1
8. Frac Daddy - 50-1
9. Goldencents - 20-1
10. He’s Had Enough - 50-1
11. Itsmyluckyday - 15-1
12. Mylute - 30-1

13. Normandy Invasion - 20-1
14. Overanalyze - 15-1
15. Oxbow - 20-1
16. Revolutionary - 20-1
17. Shanghai Bobby - 12-1
18. Super Ninety Nine - 20-1

19. Uncaptured - 20-1
20. Verrazano - 15-1
21. Violence - 12-1
22. Vyjack (g) - 20-1
23. Will Take Charge - 30-1
24. All Others - 9-5

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I bet you like the 99-1 that Den's Legacy is holding steady at!!
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:03 PM
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FINAL POOL ODDS (Opening/Final)

Capo Bastone 30/1 50
Code West 50/1 50
Delhomme 30/1 50
Den's Legacy 30/1 70
Dynamic Sky 30/1 50
Falling Sky 30/1 99

Flashback 15/1 12
Frac Daddy 50/1 60
Goldencents 20/1 20
He's Had Enough 50/1 50
Itsmyluckyday 15/1 13
Mylute 30/1 99

Normandy Invasion 20/1 15
Overanalyze 15/1 30
Oxbow 20/1 25
Revolutionary 20/1 13
Shanghai Bobby 12/1 14
Super Ninety Nine 20/1 45

Uncaptured 20/1 40
Verrazano 15/1 11
Violence 12/1 13
Vyjack 20/1 45
Will Take Charge 30/1 60
All Other Three Year Olds 9/5 8/5
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:08 PM
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Steve,

I bet you like the 99-1 that Den's Legacy is holding steady at!!
Yes! I took a little.. Plus Code West, My Lute and Will Take Charge..
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Old 02-10-2013, 06:09 PM
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FINAL POOL ODDS (Opening/Final)

Capo Bastone 30/1 50
Code West 50/1 50
Delhomme 30/1 50
Den's Legacy 30/1 70
Dynamic Sky 30/1 50
Falling Sky 30/1 99

Flashback 15/1 12
Frac Daddy 50/1 60
Goldencents 20/1 20
He's Had Enough 50/1 50
Itsmyluckyday 15/1 13
Mylute 30/1 99

Normandy Invasion 20/1 15
Overanalyze 15/1 30
Oxbow 20/1 25
Revolutionary 20/1 13
Shanghai Bobby 12/1 14
Super Ninety Nine 20/1 45

Uncaptured 20/1 40
Verrazano 15/1 11
Violence 12/1 13
Vyjack 20/1 45
Will Take Charge 30/1 60
All Other Three Year Olds 9/5 8/5

I put $40 into this thing. 20$ on Super Ninety Nine and Code West.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:34 PM
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These will-pays should be pretty close:

Horse Will Pay
Capo Bastone $118.00
Code West $114.00
Delhomme $113.20
Den's Legacy $156.60
Dynamic Sky $110.00
Falling Sky $230.80
Flashback $26.40
Frac Daddy $139.00
Goldencents $43.40
He's Had Enough $102.60
Itsmyluckyday $28.80
Mylute $249.20
Normandy Invasion $33.00
Overanalyze $69.20
Oxbow $54.80
Revolutionary $29.00
Shanghai Bobby $31.40
Super Ninety Nine $97.20
Uncaptured $82.40
Verrazano $24.00
Violence $28.60
Vyjack $100.60
Will Take Charge $124.20
All Other 3 yr olds $5.20

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:39 PM
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These are Derby futures, not April N1X races at Keeneland.
I don't know, after Little Distorted's awesome race on Saturday, I think he is right on target for the KY Derby.
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Old 02-11-2013, 08:51 AM
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Revolutionary did that to him in his first start. He looked a little gimpy after that maiden win. On Saturday, When he opened double digits, it was pretty clear he was gonzo. The way they bet him in his debut into the teeth of Revolutionary, they already know he's gone. I'm surprised they even ran. This is what happens when you run too fast too soon.
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Old 02-11-2013, 09:18 AM
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Revolutionary did that to him in his first start. He looked a little gimpy after that maiden win. On Saturday, When he opened double digits, it was pretty clear he was gonzo. The way they bet him in his debut into the teeth of Revolutionary, they already know he's gone. I'm surprised they even ran. This is what happens when you run too fast too soon.
Are you completely disregarding the trainer change from his debut to his 2nd start?

Mareina is an excellent trainer and Darrin Miller would have a hard time winning a dirt race with Cigar in his barn. Mareina had Little Distorted ready to roll first time out so that he could be sold afterwards. He got what he (and likely the owner) wanted.
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Old 02-11-2013, 03:40 PM
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The horse that is most interesting to me so far is Orb. I really liked his last race and think he'll continue to get better. The major negative to him is that he is gonna have to run lights out to gain the points to get in.
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Are you completely disregarding the trainer change from his debut to his 2nd start?

Mareina is an excellent trainer and Darrin Miller would have a hard time winning a dirt race with Cigar in his barn. Mareina had Little Distorted ready to roll first time out so that he could be sold afterwards. He got what he (and likely the owner) wanted.
I completely agree with you on the trainer switch being a huge negative ... but something physical is likely wrong with Little Distorted.

He has run back to back performances that have been insanely dismal. Doubtful he is sound of wind and limb. Those were two pretty hardcore non-efforts.
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The horse that is most interesting to me so far is Orb. I really liked his last race and think he'll continue to get better. The major negative to him is that he is gonna have to run lights out to gain the points to get in.
Shug said today that although he'd prefer an ALW start next, he'll likely send him in the Fountain of Youth (2/23).
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Are you completely disregarding the trainer change from his debut to his 2nd start?

Mareina is an excellent trainer and Darrin Miller would have a hard time winning a dirt race with Cigar in his barn. Mareina had Little Distorted ready to roll first time out so that he could be sold afterwards. He got what he (and likely the owner) wanted.

point well taken
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