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videogirl10 · #1 10-10-2006, 01:14 AM

have they figured out what happened to this horse? is he done?

pmayjr · #2 10-10-2006, 01:20 AM

If I were his connections- If you wanna keep him racing, train him up to the Donn at Gulfstream next year. Give him a month off, and then start serious training again. He seems to be another horse that no one hears about for months, and then all of a sudden the connections say "oh yeah... we retired him..."

videogirl10 · #3 10-10-2006, 01:24 AM

you would think they would have decided what they were going to do by now. he just doesn't seem to be in interested anymore.

pmayjr · #4 10-10-2006, 01:33 AM

that's why I'm wonderin if they are just gonna let him chill at the farm for like a month or some, and then maybe in November or December start training him again and see how he reacts.

videogirl10 · #5 10-10-2006, 01:35 AM

that sounds like a good plan, but isn't that what they did pretty much this whole year..just minus the farm visit. they took there time getting him "ready" and now he stinks.

pmayjr · #6 10-10-2006, 01:39 AM

good ponit... I guess it's a "wait-and-see" situation. It's another horse whom I wish did do better this summer. Another horse that can stretch out the odds in the BC Classic. But maybe if his connections can find a way to get hime right- they can make 1 more run at it next year. ****, if he were to win the Donn, you could send him to Dubai.

Swap Fliparoo · #7 10-10-2006, 07:50 AM

I just got a workout notice for him - it was a bullet!

#8 10-10-2006, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Swap Fliparoo

I just got a workout notice for him - it was a bullet!

I doubt that any of his problems have been physical. Hes simply worth too much as a stallion to risk on the track broken down. Hes a grade one winner who placed in the BCC to a horse of the year at age three, and his sire is the hottest thing on the planet.
I think it was also obvious that his problems weren't physical in nature(to the extent that he would run that poorly, may be aches and pains but they aren't the full story) after they didn't immediately retire him after the dreadful performance he put in at Saratoga, the Woodward being just awful for him.
It appears as though hes lost his desire to compete to me. He travels smoothly enough and was working well at Saratoga before both races. He simply didn't show any punch at all on the track. If he did indeed fire a bullet(I have no knowledge of this, hes not in my stable mail) then perhaps they will try the Cigar Mile.

#9 10-10-2006, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Swap Fliparoo

I just got a workout notice for him - it was a bullet!

Swap Flip, where was this bullet? I just checked yesterday's works at all tracks I could think of him working at and couldn't find a work on him. I'd appreciate a heads up on when and where he worked if you could do that.

dr. fager · #10 10-10-2006, 08:35 AM

Here's what I found for reason works o-

Flower Alley
10/09/2006 BEL 5F 1:01.24 Dirt Fast B
10/03/2006 BEL 4F :50.64 Dirt Fast B

#11 10-10-2006, 08:39 AM

Thanks Fager. I just looked at the works that day and the work appears impressive. Cowtown Cat, a very fast 2 year old of Pletchers had the 2nd fastest work at the distance and its very likely they went in company. If they did he outworked him by a length or two. This is very interesting. He may indeed run again. Perhaps they found something that had been bothering him? Have to call and ask my man the clocker how he went and what he observed. Shoot, I was on the phone with him last night and could have asked him then. You have me curious.

my miss storm cat · #12 10-10-2006, 06:01 PM

Scroll down.....

http://www.drf.com/news/article/79472.html

Gander · #13 10-10-2006, 06:05 PM

Maybe he could use a new trainer

my miss storm cat · #14 10-10-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander

Maybe he could use a new trainer

Yeah well, at first I thought maybe they were gonna let him go to the Stones concert but I realized they had already played.....

kentuckyrosesinmay · #15 10-10-2006, 06:18 PM

I bet we'll see him in the Clark...

pmayjr · #16 10-10-2006, 06:23 PM

There is this angle too-

He won at the age of 3 at Turfway on the Poly. Between Turfway this winter and then Keeneland in the spring, he could be pointed there if there were any worthy stakes races. Maybe a low-end stakes race to get him back into form might not be so bad at Turfway, since he's won on the stuff in the past.

1st_Saturday_in_May · #17 10-10-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

There is this angle too-

He won at the age of 3 at Turfway on the Poly. Between Turfway this winter and then Keeneland in the spring, he could be pointed there if there were any worthy stakes races. Maybe a low-end stakes race to get him back into form might not be so bad at Turfway, since he's won on the stuff in the past.

I think his Turfway win was in the good ole days, i.e. pre-polyjunk