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Old 08-01-2009, 05:05 PM
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Personally I thought Smith moved to soon but I'm not so sure he wins if they waited either...

Is he looking at a career of OTB finishes and not another big win?
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:10 PM
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Tough, tough pace set up. I think he wins again. As a gelding he'll be around for a while. Isn't it true that horses get better as they get to four years old?

He'll win again.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:12 PM
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Tough, tough pace set up. I think he wins again. As a gelding he'll be around for a while. Isn't it true that horses get better as they get to four years old?

He'll win again.
Off the top of my head, Flower Alley would disagree with that assumption.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:17 PM
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Tough, tough pace set up. I think he wins again. As a gelding he'll be around for a while. Isn't it true that horses get better as they get to four years old?

He'll win again.
The 1 seemed to flourish with the tough, tough pace. Not sure if he could've gotten a better set up, he stunk today no ifs, ands, or buts.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:22 PM
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:30 PM
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sure he can win again, but its going to take a drop in class, and that says something looking at the WV Derby field, a perfect trip, and maybe even some rain.

Horses who need perfect trips to win are average horses, we have lots of those in grade 3's, which is about this horses level.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:13 PM
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One trainer down there told me Big Drama passed out after the race - and was on the ground for a long while - but he did not die.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:44 PM
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He was put in an impossible to win race and had to move early today. The horse will win again.
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Old 08-01-2009, 07:48 PM
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What was so impossible about it?
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What was so impossible about it?
Giving 11 pounds to a quality horse that was lone speed. It turned out that Big Drama was a giant gutless pig but at the time Smith moved he didn't know that.
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:28 PM
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One trainer down there told me Big Drama passed out after the race - and was on the ground for a long while - but he did not die.
So does that mean no King's Bishop?
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Old 08-01-2009, 08:40 PM
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Giving 11 pounds to a quality horse that was lone speed. It turned out that Big Drama was a giant gutless pig but at the time Smith moved he didn't know that.
It wasn't 11 pounds - Coa couldn't make the weight and went off at 115lbs.

And considering Big Drama allegedly passed out from heat stroke after the race on the walk back to the barn - and was down for a long time - I guess he's not a gutless pig. He was done on the turn.
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Old 08-01-2009, 09:48 PM
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Personally I thought Smith moved to soon but I'm not so sure he wins if they waited either...

Is he looking at a career of OTB finishes and not another big win?
Maybe his connections wanted better odds for the Travers.

I'm not ready to write him off just yet. If he fizzles in the Travers and Super Derby, there is always the turf and those short-field grass marathons in SoCal.
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:29 PM
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One trainer down there told me Big Drama passed out after the race - and was on the ground for a long while - but he did not die.
...hope his o.k. he had better stick to 7 panels
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Old 08-01-2009, 10:49 PM
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if mine that bird gets the right set up for his one dimensional running style, he could win again. it wouldn't surprise me if he won again, or if he didn't.
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:01 PM
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He's going to win JCGC, then end his career in Wadworth Memorial and retire
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:41 PM
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He will win again, if he stays healty.
He likes synthetic surfaces and that usually favors his running style, he will find a group somewhere he can handle. He is also clearly dangerous in any race with a strong pace.
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Old 08-02-2009, 12:27 AM
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He's going to win JCGC, then end his career in Wadworth Memorial and retire
If Rachel's not there, I think he's got as good a shot as any. Seriously, who are the top older horses back east? Commentator and Einstein? Do either of those two scare anyone off?
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Old 08-02-2009, 04:32 AM
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Is he looking at a career of OTB finishes and not another big win?
Define "big win".

Will he get another Grade 1 win? No
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Old 08-02-2009, 08:28 AM
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I would say he could become another Perfect Drift, but I don't think he's that good.
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