Weekend Stakes Beyers: Haikal 95; Tacitus 93

Kasept · #1 03-09-2019, 08:32 PM

Preliminary @TampaBayDownsFL Beyers:

Tampa Bay Derby (G2)-Tacitus 93
FL Oaks (G3)-Concrete Rode 80
Hillsborough (G3)-Rymska 97
Challenger-Flameaway 93
Columbia-Digital Age 76

Preliminary Saturday @TheNYRA Beyers:

Tom Fool (G3)-Do Share 105
Stymie-Vino Rosso 98
Gotham (G3)-Haikal 95
Busher-Espresso Shot 80

RHT2004 · #2 03-09-2019, 10:05 PM

This isn't only because I've been on him from early on, but i was impressed with Tacticus. Solid number off the layoff. Nice improvement.

RHT2004 · #3 03-09-2019, 10:31 PM

Vino Rosso was also impressive. Andy talked about it on the fox show, but he was sharp with new found speed. If he moves forward off this he can win the Met mile.

Kasept · #4 03-10-2019, 05:20 AM

TAM Tampa Bay Derby (G2): Tacitus 93 (Tapit) W. Mott/J. Ortiz
TAM Hillsborough S (G2): Rymska-FR 97 (Le Havre-IRE) C. Brown/I. Ortiz
TAM Florida Oaks (G3): Concrete Rose 80 (Twirling Candy) G. Arnold/J. Leparoux
TAM Challenger S: Flameaway 93 (Scat Daddy) M. Casse/J. Ortiz
TAM Columbia S: Digital Age-IRE 76 (Invincible Spirit-IRE) C. Brown/I. Ortiz

AQU Gotham S (G3): Haikal 95 (Daaher) K. McLaughlin/R. Maragh
AQU Busher S: Espresso Shot 80 (Mission Impazible) J. Abreu/E. Cancel
AQU Tom Fool H (G3): Do Share 105 (Candy Ride (ARG) M. Maker/R. Gutierrez
AQU Stymie S: Vino Rosso 98 (Curlin) T. Pletcher/J. Velazquez
AQU Heavenly Prize S: Divine Miss Grey 96 (Divine Park) D. Gargan/M. Franco

OP Honeybee S (G3): Chocolate Kisses 82 (Candy Ride-ARG) M. Casse/O. Mojica
OP Hot Springs S: Whitmore 104 (Pleasantly Perfect) R. Moquett/R. Santana

TP Jeff Ruby Steaks (G3): Somelikeithotbrown 83 (Big Brown) M. Maker/T. Gaffalione
TP Bourbonette Oaks: Naughty Joker 65 (Into Mischief) W. Ward/R. Bejarano
TP Kentucky Cup Classic S: Nun the Less 96 (Candy Ride-ARG) C. Contreras/W. De La Cruz
TP Latonia S: Princess Warrior 81 (Midshipman) K. McPeek/B. Hernandez
TP Rushaway S: Onthewaytonevrland-IRE 80 (No Nay Never) W. Ward/R. Bejarano
TP Animal Kingdom S: Hawaiian Noises 67 (Super Saver) W. Ward/R. Bejarano

GP Captiva Island S: Samara 87 (Hard Spun) J. Servis/N. Juarez
GP Silks Run S: Imprimis 108 (Broken Vow) J. Orseno/P. Lopez

FG Allen 'Black Cat' LaCombe S: Bell's the One 78 (Majesticperfection) N. Pessin/C. Lanerie

DED Owner Appreciation Cup S: Mocito Rojo 90 (Mutadda) S. Wilson/F. Rodriguez
DED Owner Appreciation Distaff S: Testing One Two 72 (Star Guitar) V. Arceneaux/D. Saenz

RolloTomasi · #5 03-10-2019, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004

This isn't only because I've been on him from early on, but i was impressed with Tacticus. Solid number off the layoff. Nice improvement.

Needed 60 days to reappear on worktab after debut. 4 months away from races after just 2 starts.

Hard ridden from the far turn onwards--despite a blistering pace--to beat a field essentially made up of sprinters and a couple of big barn second stringers while shifting/lugging out in the final stages.

Sired by Tapit.

Reads like the profile of the winner of the next Belmont Stakes, funny enough.

blackthroatedwind · #6 03-10-2019, 10:03 AM

A lot to fool people in the Derby preps yesterday.

blackthroatedwind · #7 03-10-2019, 10:31 AM

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This isn't only because I've been on him from early on, but i was impressed with Tacticus. Solid number off the layoff. Nice improvement.

If you didn't like him, you would point out his unbelievably great trip.

I'm predisposed to like him too, and it was only his third start, but let's be realistic...he was VERY fortunate to win yesterday.

-BT- · #8 03-11-2019, 10:15 AM

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If you didn't like him, you would point out his unbelievably great trip.

I'm predisposed to like him too, and it was only his third start, but let's be realistic...he was VERY fortunate to win yesterday.

I would like to see his Trakus #'s as well (as compared to Win Win Win). Also, first time Lasix, which seemed to work out well.

-bt-

cakes44 · #9 03-12-2019, 07:46 AM

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I would like to see his Trakus #'s as well (as compared to Win Win Win). Also, first time Lasix, which seemed to work out well.

-bt-

I think if you trade their trips, they trade where they finished.

RHT2004 · #10 03-12-2019, 12:03 PM

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I think if you trade their trips, they trade where they finished.

I think he's a sprinter and wont finish up going long. I said that before the race as well.

moses · #11 03-12-2019, 12:13 PM

After listening to Mark Casse talk about Sir Winston, I watched the TB Derby a couple times again. Man, that horse is flying at the end.

blackthroatedwind · #12 03-12-2019, 03:32 PM

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After listening to Mark Casse talk about Sir Winston, I watched the TB Derby a couple times again. Man, that horse is flying at the end.

Yes, because the pace was fast and the race was collapsing.

Thoroughbred Fan · #13 03-13-2019, 08:20 PM

Totally crazy pace for that track.

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Yes, because the pace was fast and the race was collapsing.

moses · #14 03-13-2019, 10:47 PM

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Yes, because the pace was fast and the race was collapsing.

Sure. But Tacitus and Win Win Win were both off the pace a bit and Sir Winston closed 4-5 lengths on them down the stretch.

blackthroatedwind · #15 03-14-2019, 08:15 AM

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Sure. But Tacitus and Win Win Win were both off the pace a bit and Sir Winston closed 4-5 lengths on them down the stretch.

In a meltdown, being farther back is often better.

moses · #16 03-14-2019, 10:02 AM

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In a meltdown, being farther back is often better.

True. I’m not trying to say Sir Winston is a Derby contender, just making a note of it. There will be races similar to the Tampa Bay Derby where it might make sense to include him.

blackthroatedwind · #17 03-14-2019, 10:29 AM

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True. I’m not trying to say Sir Winston is a Derby contender, just making a note of it. There will be races similar to the Tampa Bay Derby where it might make sense to include him.

Meltdowns are fairly infrequent.

moses · #18 03-14-2019, 12:30 PM

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Meltdowns are fairly infrequent.

I’ll take your word for it — but doesn’t it seem like they’ve been happening in a lot of the prep races?

blackthroatedwind · #19 03-14-2019, 01:54 PM

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I’ll take your word for it — but doesn’t it seem like they’ve been happening in a lot of the prep races?

It does but that will likely change.