11/12 (AQU): Discovery, Red Smith (G3's); NYSS Staten Island

[Kasept]

7th (3:17) Red Smith H. (G3)

1 3/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Rum Tum Tugger Lezcano J 115 L
2 Biz The Nurse (IRE) Gallardo A A 115 Blk-On L
3 Arties Silver Mine Ortiz I Jr 114 L
4 I'll Call Carmouche K 115 L
5 Up With the Birds Alvarado J 117 L
6 Smooth Daddy Davis D 115 L
7 Messi (GER) Prado E S 120 L
8 Wake Forest (GER) Castellano J J 123 L
9 Bigger Picture Ortiz J L 117 L
MTO Tommy Macho No Rider 114 L
11 Danish Dynaformer Velazquez J R 118 L
12 Tale of Fancy Franco M 115 L



8th (3:47) Discovery S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Adulator Velazquez J R 118 L
2 Hunter O'Riley Alvarado J 118 L
3 Gift Box Castellano J J 118 L
4 Sticksstatelydude Rosario J 118 L
5 Governor Malibu Bravo J 120 L
6 Hot Seat Gallardo A A 118 L
7 My Man Sam Ortiz I Jr 116 L
8 Neolithic Lezcano J 116 Blk-On L
9 Wild About Deb Ortiz J L 116 L
10 Vulcan's Forge Saez L 118 L
11 Sunny Ridge Franco M 124 L

[Kasept]

SUN 8th (3:47) New York Stallion Series S.

7 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Wonderment Rosario J 122 L
2 Super Surprise Velazquez J R 122 L
3 Highway Star Arroyo A S 116 L
4 Storied Lady Gallardo A A 124 L
5 Hey Kiddo Ortiz J L 120 L
6 Uncle Southern Castellano J J 120 L
7 Perfect Freud Lezcano J 120 L
8 Rosie P Carmouche K 116 L
9 Frosty Margarita Ortiz I Jr 122 L
10 Lady Kreesa Franco M 118 L
11 Familyofroses Davis J A 118 L

[RHT2004]

Nice big fields for those Saturday stakes. I'm excited.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Kasept

8th (3:47) Discovery S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Adulator Velazquez J R 118 L
2 Hunter O'Riley Alvarado J 118 L
3 Gift Box Castellano J J 118 L
4 Sticksstatelydude Rosario J 118 L
5 Governor Malibu Bravo J 120 L
6 Hot Seat Gallardo A A 118 L
7 My Man Sam Ortiz I Jr 116 L
8 Neolithic Lezcano J 116 Blk-On L
9 Wild About Deb Ortiz J L 116 L
10 Vulcan's Forge Saez L 118 L
11 Sunny Ridge Franco M 124 L

The Discovery is one of the most historic races on the calendar. It has served as a true stallion making race, has been rife with upsets, and served as a springboard for several top horses early in their careers.

In the '40s, Triple Crown winner Assault, Belmont winner and champion 3yo Phalanx, and champion 2yo and top broodmare sire Double Jay (Ferdinand) all got beat in this race.

The '50s was a show of versatility for the Discovery. Champion steeplechaser Ancestor won it in 1952, while the 3rd place finisher in '59, Intentionally was a champion sprinter, and later was a top sire and produced fellow monsters in the breeding shed In Reality, Ta Wee, and Tentam.

In the '60s the race was won by the mighty Kelso in one of his first stakes wins and fellow HOY Roman Brother won it in 1964 over the good sire Lt. Stevens (who was the broodmare sire of HOY Alysheba). In '67, champion 2yo Successor was defeated by Bold Hour, the broodmare sire of KY Derby winner Winning Colors.

The '70s started off with the ill-fated champion older horse Autobiography winning over English Triple Crown winner Nijinsky II's full brother, Minsky. 2 years later in 1973, the great Forego took the race as his 2nd of 24 career stakes victories. Top stallion Cox's Ridge, who sired 1990 Discovery Sports View and the granddam of Derby winner Orb, won the race in 1977. Smarten ran 2nd in 1979 and went on to be a top sire, getting the dam that produced siblings Dance Smartly and Smart Strike, themselves important in the stud book.

The '80s started strong with the good race horse Fappiano taking this as his 2nd career stakes win. He later became an important sire, notably Unbridled, the paternal grandsire of Arrogate. Canadian champion Key To The Moon won in 1984. In '85, Proud Truth returned from a shin fracture to take this race exactly 7 days before he upset the BC Classic at Aqueduct. In 1988, Dynaformer, a sire of over 120 stakes winners including Barbaro, won the race by a nose and the next year the race was won by Tricky Creek, broodmare sire of Beholder.

The '90s were slow but in '94 2-5 shot Unaccounted For, a son of Phipps stallion Private Account, was upset by Phipps castoff Serious Spender, who was closely related to the Phipps horse Living Vicariously, who could only get 3rd in the year before in the Discovery. The Phipps also got 2nd in '95 when Heavenly Prize's full brother Hunting Hard ran in the race. However, the Phipps family finally got a victory of their own in '96 when Gold Fever took the race right before taking the NYRA Mile. Todd Pletcher won the first of his 6 Discovery's in '98 with Early Warning.

Pletcher started off the 2000s in a big way, taking the Discovery with the ill-fated Left Bank, who upset Dubai World Cup winner Street Cry in the '02 Whitney in what turned out to be the final start of both horses. Ironically, Street Cry was also upset in the Discovery in '01 as the 4-5 favorite coming off an injury that kept him out of the KY Derby. He was defeated by future Jockey Club Gold Cup winner Evening Attire a good gelding who won stakes all the way to 10 years of age. In 2003, James McIngvale the beloved owner of Runhappy won the race with During, then trained by Bob Baffert. Since then the race has pretty much sucked beyond Todd Pletcher adding several more winners to his resume.

This year, however, looks to reverse that trend. While Gift Box and a couple of others bring some sharp Beyers to the table, a pair of horses are coming into this race with a pattern vaguely reminiscent of the mighty Cigar when he was but a 4yo late in November at Aqueduct. Cigar had toiled in turf races for the better part of 2 years after a trainer switch, despite winning his maiden in a dirt sprint at Hollywood impressively at 3. When returning to the dirt, he won impressively in a conditioned allowance race before blitzing the NYRA Mile, which now bears his name.

2 colts this year also changed trainers in their careers yet focused on turf races for most of 2016. Vulcan's Forge, a grandson of champion turf mare Possibly Perfect and trained by Discovery stalwart Todd Pletcher will make his dirt stakes debut after switching to the main track in his last 2 starts, including a good allowance win at Belmont over Realm, who also ran second to morning line choice Gift Box in May. Prior to that, Vulcan's Forge placed in another allowance behind Hunter O'Riley who switched to James Toner's barn after racing as a 2yo for Joe Sharp. After breaking his maiden in an off-the-turf maiden at CD late last year, he shipped to Aqueduct for the Remsen and was badly beaten. However, he was laid up 7 months after that, so he likely had a physical excuse for the poor performance. Despite being entered on the turf, Hunter O'Riley has raced in a pair of off-the-turf races, placing in one and romping by 8 lengths last out at Belmont in a 4-horse field. The Beyer was atrocious but his dirt record of 4-2-1-0 suggests he might be better than the form suggests. Both horses are double digits.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

The Discovery is one of the most historic races on the calendar. It has served as a true stallion making race, has been rife with upsets, and served as a springboard for several top horses early in their careers.

In the '40s, Triple Crown winner Assault, Belmont winner and champion 3yo Phalanx, and champion 2yo and top broodmare sire Double Jay (Ferdinand) all got beat in this race.

The '50s was a show of versatility for the Discovery. Champion steeplechaser Ancestor won it in 1952, while the 3rd place finisher in '59, Intentionally was a champion sprinter, and later was a top sire and produced fellow monsters in the breeding shed In Reality, Ta Wee, and Tentam.

In the '60s the race was won by the mighty Kelso in one of his first stakes wins and fellow HOY Roman Brother won it in 1964 over the good sire Lt. Stevens (who was the broodmare sire of HOY Alysheba). In '67, champion 2yo Successor was defeated by Bold Hour, the broodmare sire of KY Derby winner Winning Colors.

The '70s started off with the ill-fated champion older horse Autobiography winning over English Triple Crown winner Nijinsky II's full brother, Minsky. 2 years later in 1973, the great Forego took the race as his 2nd of 24 career stakes victories. Top stallion Cox's Ridge, who sired 1990 Discovery Sports View and the granddam of Derby winner Orb, won the race in 1977. Smarten ran 2nd in 1979 and went on to be a top sire, getting the dam that produced siblings Dance Smartly and Smart Strike, themselves important in the stud book.

The '80s started strong with the good race horse Fappiano taking this as his 2nd career stakes win. He later became an important sire, notably Unbridled, the paternal grandsire of Arrogate. Canadian champion Key To The Moon won in 1984. In '85, Proud Truth returned from a shin fracture to take this race exactly 7 days before he upset the BC Classic at Aqueduct. In 1988, Dynaformer, a sire of over 120 stakes winners including Barbaro, won the race by a nose and the next year the race was won by Tricky Creek, broodmare sire of Beholder.

The '90s were slow but in '94 2-5 shot Unaccounted For, a son of Phipps stallion Private Account, was upset by Phipps castoff Serious Spender, who was closely related to the Phipps horse Living Vicariously, who could only get 3rd in the year before in the Discovery. The Phipps also got 2nd in '95 when Heavenly Prize's full brother Hunting Hard ran in the race. However, the Phipps family finally got a victory of their own in '96 when Gold Fever took the race right before taking the NYRA Mile. Todd Pletcher won the first of his 6 Discovery's in '98 with Early Warning.

Pletcher started off the 2000s in a big way, taking the Discovery with the ill-fated Left Bank, who upset Dubai World Cup winner Street Cry in the '02 Whitney in what turned out to be the final start of both horses. Ironically, Street Cry was also upset in the Discovery in '01 as the 4-5 favorite coming off an injury that kept him out of the KY Derby. He was defeated by future Jockey Club Gold Cup winner Evening Attire a good gelding who won stakes all the way to 10 years of age. In 2003, James McIngvale the beloved owner of Runhappy won the race with During, then trained by Bob Baffert. Since then the race has pretty much sucked beyond Todd Pletcher adding several more winners to his resume.

This year, however, looks to reverse that trend. While Gift Box and a couple of others bring some sharp Beyers to the table, a pair of horses are coming into this race with a pattern vaguely reminiscent of the mighty Cigar when he was but a 4yo late in November at Aqueduct. Cigar had toiled in turf races for the better part of 2 years after a trainer switch, despite winning his maiden in a dirt sprint at Hollywood impressively at 3. When returning to the dirt, he won impressively in a conditioned allowance race before blitzing the NYRA Mile, which now bears his name.

2 colts this year also changed trainers in their careers yet focused on turf races for most of 2016. Vulcan's Forge, a grandson of champion turf mare Possibly Perfect and trained by Discovery stalwart Todd Pletcher will make his dirt stakes debut after switching to the main track in his last 2 starts, including a good allowance win at Belmont over Realm, who also ran second to morning line choice Gift Box in May. Prior to that, Vulcan's Forge placed in another allowance behind Hunter O'Riley who switched to James Toner's barn after racing as a 2yo for Joe Sharp. After breaking his maiden in an off-the-turf maiden at CD late last year, he shipped to Aqueduct for the Remsen and was badly beaten. However, he was laid up 7 months after that, so he likely had a physical excuse for the poor performance. Despite being entered on the turf, Hunter O'Riley has raced in a pair of off-the-turf races, placing in one and romping by 8 lengths last out at Belmont in a 4-horse field. The Beyer was atrocious but his dirt record of 4-2-1-0 suggests he might be better than the form suggests. Both horses are double digits.

Sharp post, the complete opposite of **crinkle** **trash can**