Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:33 PM
Seattleallstar's Avatar
Seattleallstar Seattleallstar is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,866
Default Corinthian wont lose

book it peeps!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:34 PM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

You are nuts. I hate him today.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:37 PM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

Jerry you are swallowing 3/4 on this horse?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:39 PM
Seattleallstar's Avatar
Seattleallstar Seattleallstar is offline
The Curragh
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,866
Default

nope I haven't bet at all, TVG only has Keenland and Aqueduct to bet. Plus the gas station ran out of racing forms, its worked out for the best I didnt play today.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:42 PM
hoovesupsideyourhead's Avatar
hoovesupsideyourhead hoovesupsideyourhead is offline
"The Kentucky Killing Machine"
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: florida
Posts: 16,277
Default

he may win but that aint no price..at least the5/6 is a bit of a shot
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:43 PM
saucon17's Avatar
saucon17 saucon17 is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Bethlehem, Pa.
Posts: 1,259
Default

Seattle I hope you r very lucky
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:44 PM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

Off the board.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:51 PM
POINTGIVEN1985 POINTGIVEN1985 is offline
Gulfstream Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,236
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by randallscott35
Off the board.
very legit excuse he beats magna graduate 6.8/10 times....
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:52 PM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985
very legit excuse he beats magna graduate 8-10 times....
He wasn't running today. The 4/5 crowd on that horse needs their head examined.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:53 PM
POINTGIVEN1985 POINTGIVEN1985 is offline
Gulfstream Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,236
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by randallscott35
He wasn't running today. The 4/5 crowd on that horse needs their head examined.
i dont see what your saying ? anyone can say a horse wasn't running with the start he had, he was done after the start, he is a far better horse then that and with a clean break he wins today
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:55 PM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

Joe, he has never run close to as fast as Magna Graduate has. Never. To say he would beat him 80% of the time is ludicrous.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:55 PM
Betsy Betsy is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,303
Default

The horse lost the race at the start - he hopped and lost at least 7-8 lengths. He'd have to have been a superhorse to have overcome that - Tom Durkin called it accurately - it was just disastrous. I don't think Corinthian should be judged at all by this race; that would be unfair.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:57 PM
POINTGIVEN1985 POINTGIVEN1985 is offline
Gulfstream Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,236
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by randallscott35
Joe, he has never run close to as fast as Magna Graduate has. Never. To say he would beat him 80% of the time is ludicrous.
its my opinion and i firmly belive he is a far better horse then magna graduate
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 04-07-2007, 05:59 PM
POINTGIVEN1985 POINTGIVEN1985 is offline
Gulfstream Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,236
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by randallscott35
Joe, he has never run close to as fast as Magna Graduate has. Never. To say he would beat him 80% of the time is ludicrous.
i agree with you 8/10 is crazy, i will change it
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 04-07-2007, 06:12 PM
King Glorious's Avatar
King Glorious King Glorious is offline
Atlantic City Race Course
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Beaumont, CA
Posts: 4,611
Default

I hate when convenient excuses cloud the real results. Fact is that Corinthian had a bad start. A horrible start. But down the backstretch, he had passed Evening Attire and was right on Magna Graduate's flank on the turn. He was in good position and had nothing left. I know some will say he used up too much to get into contention in the first place. Maybe so but from my perspective, if he was good enough, he probably wasn't going to beat the winner but second or third should have been where he finished.
__________________
The real horses of the year (1986-2020)
Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 04-07-2007, 06:18 PM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,939
Default

i think a bad start can be overused as an excuse.
__________________
Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all.
Abraham Lincoln
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 04-07-2007, 06:18 PM
POINTGIVEN1985 POINTGIVEN1985 is offline
Gulfstream Park
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,236
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Glorious
I hate when convenient excuses cloud the real results. Fact is that Corinthian had a bad start. A horrible start. But down the backstretch, he had passed Evening Attire and was right on Magna Graduate's flank on the turn. He was in good position and had nothing left. I know some will say he used up too much to get into contention in the first place. Maybe so but from my perspective, if he was good enough, he probably wasn't going to beat the winner but second or third should have been where he finished.

ok i think you are way off, i dont think many horse's could over come the start he had, it was a horrible start he lost 7-9 lenghts, its not like it was a minor stumble, it was a disaster.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 04-07-2007, 06:20 PM
randallscott35's Avatar
randallscott35 randallscott35 is offline
Idlewild Airport
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: USA
Posts: 9,687
Default

I concede that he wasn't winning after that start....But Pointgiven you are somehow assuming had the start been perfect he would've won which is a reach at best. Fact is, he isn't the soundest horse and he shouldn't have won his last start either. And he takes money like I can't believe in every race.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 04-07-2007, 06:26 PM
Betsy Betsy is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,303
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Glorious
I hate when convenient excuses cloud the real results. Fact is that Corinthian had a bad start. A horrible start. But down the backstretch, he had passed Evening Attire and was right on Magna Graduate's flank on the turn. He was in good position and had nothing left. I know some will say he used up too much to get into contention in the first place. Maybe so but from my perspective, if he was good enough, he probably wasn't going to beat the winner but second or third should have been where he finished.
I disagree on this - I can see if it was just a stumble or something relatively minor. However, Corinthian not only hopped in the air and lost many lengths, but he also almost went to his knees. Javier obviously wasn't going to perservere once the race was out of hand -expecting Corinthian to put in a sustained run, enough to pass by other horses, after that really dreadful beginning, is asking a lot. I just hope he came out of the race ok.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 04-07-2007, 06:26 PM
Betsy Betsy is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,303
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
i think a bad start can be overused as an excuse.
Yes it can, but did you see the start? This is not one of those cases.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:59 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.