Larry Hughes sucks

[Antitrust32]

Missed that WIDE open 7 foot shot with a couple seconds remaining. I would have made that 9 out of 10 times, I dont care what the situation is. If I owned the team I wouldnt pay him for this game. Lebron didnt help the situation either, poor kid everyone's dubbing him as a choker and it may be getting to him. He needs to overcome this, he is the King.

Cavs need a new coach. That guy has no idea what he's doing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

LeBron's a very good player, but his play at the end of games is hardly King like. I know he's young and all, but he needs to be making shots at the end of games. Foul or no, he forced the play and I agree that it looks like he is having a hard time. Definitely part of the blame needs to be placed with the coach, one for that play call and two for not being as aggressive in the second half. The Cavs could and probably should be going home 1-1, maybe even 2-0.

There are no plays in the NBA that work.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Cavs need a new coach. That guy has no idea what he's doing.

He has one all star, a couple of role players, no one that can create their own shot, not much rebounding, no offense off the bench except a stand still 6'11' guy and he is two tough plays away from being up 2-0 on the road in the conference finals. He probably should get coach of the year.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Missed that WIDE open 7 foot shot with a couple seconds remaining. I would have made that 9 out of 10 times, I dont care what the situation is. If I owned the team I wouldnt pay him for this game. Lebron didnt help the situation either, poor kid everyone's dubbing him as a choker and it may be getting to him. He needs to overcome this, he is the King.

Actually the players only get paid their salaries for the regular season. I dont understand why he felt the need to fade away on a 7 footer.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He has one all star, a couple of role players, no one that can create their own shot, not much rebounding, no offense off the bench except a stand still 6'11' guy and he is two tough plays away from being up 2-0 on the road in the conference finals. He probably should get coach of the year.

Yeah 12 point lead at the half and he decides to get Z involved. Lebron only takes 8 shots. Real good coaching.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually the players only get paid their salaries for the regular season. I dont understand why he felt the need to fade away on a 7 footer.

Yes but they get some cash for winning playoff series.
Detroit looks to be just messin around with the Cavs and getting away with it.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There are no plays in the NBA that work.

But there are themes.

Into Duncan, no double team, make it happen by getting the hell away from him or cutting hard to the basket. Into Duncan, double team, kick it out.

Parker go to the hole. If they give you room, 17 foot jumper.

Ginobilli with 23 or less in a quarter. Clear out, let him go to the hole, get set for a kick out three.

And OMG the absolutely beautiful team defense. The switching is incredible. I dont have a clue as to how they are able to coordinate this so well.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Yeah 12 point lead at the half and he decides to get Z involved. Lebron only takes 8 shots. Real good coaching.

He does not really have much to work with. Perhaps you missed the 2 guys coming over to help on Lebron?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Come on. I tend to think a better coach might have something better drawn up for that. I'm not saying he's the sole reason they lost, but call me crazy, i don't think Phil Jackson or Pat Riley calls that play late.

There are no plays in the NBA. Why is that so hard to understand? There is 20 seconds left on the clock. You isolate and look to kick out if they double. Execution is the problem. They got good penetration and missed an easy followup shot. What play would you have called? Who's number would you have called out?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Yes but they get some cash for winning playoff series.
Detroit looks to be just messin around with the Cavs and getting away with it.

Cleveland is a bad matchup for Detroit. Pistons are 2 wide open, missed shots from being in real trouble. They actually match up better against San Antonio.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

But there are themes.

Into Duncan, no double team, make it happen by getting the hell away from him or cutting hard to the basket. Into Duncan, double team, kick it out.

Parker go to the hole. If they give you room, 17 foot jumper.

Ginobilli with 23 or less in a quarter. Clear out, let him go to the hole, get set for a kick out three.

And OMG the absolutely beautiful team defense. The switching is incredible. I dont have a clue as to how they are able to coordinate this so well.

Last I looked Clevelands three similar players for Duncan, Parker, and Ginobilli are named Ilguagkas, Snow, and Pavolvich. How is that for a theme?

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Spurs fan huh?

Coaching is easy with good players that also like to win using their team.

And really Hoss, how can one not like an organization that has done what the Spurs have. We got lucky with lottery picks, and surrounded the players(Robinson and Duncan) with a good organization and teammates.

Note: Steven Jackson was a Spur who people really liked as a player but the organization knew off some tendencies the fans did not. I could not believe we let the guy go. This has happened a number of times before, Alvin Robertson, Willie Anderson... and then one understands after they are gone.

I like Popovich. One, because he is a saavy people person. And two, because he is ugly.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah you're right. No coaches ever call plays. It's basically a free for all out there.

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Hossy...don't even try to argue with PeanutShell.

The guy is in love with THE CHOSEN ONE.

I've read what he's been saying and it's mekin' me SICK!! He doesn't even know what he's talking about!

I should have resisted as I told Steve I didn't want to cause him trouble so I would not say anything here anymore...so now I'm a BIG LIAH.





But it's not easy.



Better off not conversing with the guy.

I think he must write in asking for articles of James clothing.













God...I can't stand it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah you're right. No coaches ever call plays. It's basically a free for all out there.

What "play" would you call? Just give me an idea what you think they should have done? Cant you see that they have no one that can create thier own shot except Lebron? He passed off to a wide open guy in the corner the other day who missed. Did you like that one better? When you only have one real option what else could they do? They should have gotten a foul call and even without that they had a second, wide open look from 7 feet that they missed.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

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Hossy...don't even try to argue with PeanutShell.

The guy is in love with THE CHOSEN ONE.

I've read what he's been saying and it's mekin' me SICK!! He doesn't even know what he's talking about!

I should have resisted as I told Steve I didn't want to cause him trouble so I would not say anything here anymore...so now I'm a BIG LIAH.





But it's not easy.



Better off not conversing with the guy.

I think he must write in asking for articles of James clothing.













God...I can't stand it.

I was defending the coach, sir.




I forgot you liked the World B Free era better.




Perhaps they can dig up Jim Chones for you.

Cleveland has no point guard.
Lebron is dead meat just like Kobe without a point guard to spread the floor and control the flow of the game. Get them the ball where they like it.

Look at the 3 of the 4 teams.

Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams (who I think will be the best PG of these 3)
Tony Parker



Larry Hughes? No way, he is a two.
And the kid from Texas (Gibson) is in over his head offensively.
Crazy hair, I like him as a role player, I would take him. Big white Eastern European, I can use him. He can score but his defense is terrible. Definitely need some help.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Look, I agree they have very little talent surrounding LeBron. But, I did like that play better the other night, although LeBron should have taken that ball to the hole.

Honestly, I'm not sure what I would call, I'm not a NBA coach. I guess a pick and roll or setting LeBron or someone else with a jumpshot off a screen. Who knows? They did get a good second shot and missed. It happens.

It was the same play but this time Lebron took it to the hole instead of passing. You cant call a pick and roll in that situation because #1, You are handing Detroit an easy double on Lebron; #2 Who are you going to run the play for? If Rasheed was a Cav, then it is a possibility. But the Cavs dont have a single frontline player that you want to see with the ball in that situation. Lebron strength is moving with the ball toward the hoop, using his strength and size to overpower defenders. He is not that strong coming off of picks. Plus Detroit would almost certainly switch on the pick and try to deny the ball to Lebron. Which would leave the ball in the very shaky hands of Hughes, Snow, or Pavolich. Which would have been a poor decision by Brown.
Hamilton actually played great d on the play, being physical enough to disrupt the flow without drawing the foul.

There was no excuse for Hughes missing the follow up.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Cleveland has no point guard.
Lebron is dead meat just like Kobe without a point guard to spread the floor and control the flow of the game. Get them the ball where they like it.

Look at the 3 of the 4 teams.

Chauncey Billups
Deron Williams (who I think will be the best PG of these 3)
Tony Parker



Larry Hughes? No way, he is a two.
And the kid from Texas (Gibson) is in over his head offensively.
Crazy hair, I like him as a role player, I would take him. Big white Eastern European, I can use him. He can score but his defense is terrible. Definitely need some help.

Despite the pleas from Mr. Cleveland Sports, Mortavich, it is amazing that a team with that little offense is in the conference finals regardless of the overall weakness of the East.
They have a weak point guard, below average 2 guard, average post offense and nice touch from the Russian, Gooden is a garbage man, Varejo is an energy guy but has no real offensive game, Marshall is strictly a spot up 3 point shooter, Gibson may yet be ok but he lacks experience. Thats it.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There are no plays in the NBA. Why is that so hard to understand? There is 20 seconds left on the clock. You isolate and look to kick out if they double. Execution is the problem. They got good penetration and missed an easy followup shot. What play would you have called? Who's number would you have called out?

It blows my mind how obvious this is but time and time again intelligent fans miss the point entirely.

There is no ball movement during offensive sets in the NBA......execution creates options. Watch the Celts/Lakers/Pistons of decades gone by .....they all moved the ball to create shots. The Suns and Spurs do it to some extent but nothing like Magic, Bird, etc etc.......

Standing there and taking the ball 1 on all is garbage.......Lebron is a very limited basketball player with physical skills that compensate for his flaws.
And yes, when Larry Hughes left town in DC the fans quickly got over it. Another millionaire who lost his hunger when they got the contract.