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Old 06-12-2007, 11:02 PM
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Down 55-50 after three qtrs, they are 1-12 from behind the arc, James isn't close with his junp shot, the only guy playing well for them is Z...both ends.
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Old 06-12-2007, 11:50 PM
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They played just slightly worse than the Spurs...but the Pgardns' win the thriller!
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Old 06-12-2007, 11:54 PM
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The Eastern Conference is lucky they don't put a BCS system in.....they'd never see the light of day!
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The refs are so use to letting Bowen foul that they even ignored the intentional foul behind the 3 point line.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:06 AM
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it was intentional....wouldn't have been 3 fts anyway!
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it was intentional....wouldn't have been 3 fts anyway!
So,why didn't he call the foul? It's because they are so use to ignoring this guy fouling guys....habit.
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:32 AM
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So,why didn't he call the foul? It's because they are so use to ignoring this guy fouling guys....habit.
Scuds: I'm really not a fan of his,but he is a 7 yr straight All Defense player! The real problem is that on SA worst nite....the Cavs couldn't put them away.
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Old 06-13-2007, 02:59 AM
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Scuds: I'm really not a fan of his,but he is a 7 yr straight All Defense player! The real problem is that on SA worst nite....the Cavs couldn't put them away.
I am not talking about who won or lost the game etc.That's all your characterization stuff.I'm just saying that this no-call on the intentional foul is nothing new when we are talking about this Thug,Bowen.He is just another thug in America(getting away with it.)Here,ignore me..k..Watch the videos.Kind of hard to deny it when it's right in front of you,but go ahead.Tapped away at Nash's arm in the Phoenix series,and was never called for it.Intentionally kicked Stoudamire,and got away with it(after all ...it's all just because it happens by "chance.")


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Old 06-13-2007, 07:42 AM
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They shoot worse than a bad highschool team

Brown should be fired for not calling a timeout

Verajao should be deported for firing up that ridiculous half hook with the game on the line

Lebron shouldnt be compared to Jordan until further notice. Jordan would have won that game, and Pippen wouldnt have been taking a shot on a big possession.

Drew Gooden is the dumbest player to ever lay his hands on a ball, I mean its a complete joke the way he puts himself in the air with no idea of what hes going to do.

The offense was a train wreck, the set plays were poorly drawn and executed.
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The series simply boils down to the Cavs being overmatched at every position but one. Not that it matters in the long run but Ithink the refs have let both teams get away with far too much contact. Obviously LeBron hasn't earned celebrity status in the eyes of the refs because he is getting fouled pretty much everytime he goes toward the hoop but very few have been called. You could not get within an arms length of Jordan or Bird without a fould being called, and that was when the NBA wasn't called in such a soft manner. The missed call on Bowen at the end was bad but the charge they called on Manu in the third quarter was as bad a call as I've seen, maybe ever. But in the end the Spurs are too versitile offensively, played very good defensively(of course Cleveland being inept has a lot to do with that) and have a deeper, more talented roster with an very good Coach. Cleveland just does not have much talent, a 2nd year head coach , missing a starter, too many issues.

When you watch San Antonio you wonder what the hell happens to them every other year?
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Old 06-13-2007, 01:27 PM
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The series simply boils down to the Cavs being overmatched at every position but one. Not that it matters in the long run but Ithink the refs have let both teams get away with far too much contact. Obviously LeBron hasn't earned celebrity status in the eyes of the refs because he is getting fouled pretty much everytime he goes toward the hoop but very few have been called. You could not get within an arms length of Jordan or Bird without a fould being called, and that was when the NBA wasn't called in such a soft manner. The missed call on Bowen at the end was bad but the charge they called on Manu in the third quarter was as bad a call as I've seen, maybe ever. But in the end the Spurs are too versitile offensively, played very good defensively(of course Cleveland being inept has a lot to do with that) and have a deeper, more talented roster with an very good Coach. Cleveland just does not have much talent, a 2nd year head coach , missing a starter, too many issues.

When you watch San Antonio you wonder what the hell happens to them every other year?
Somebody looks them in the eye.To be honest,Duncan then gets to missing easy shots.If you look Duncan dead in the eye,and match his team's intensity,then Duncan will miss easy shots.The Cav's grew a set for what? About 4 or 5 minutes on Sunday Night..Spurs(all the sudden missed shots.) When the Cav's started missing a few,the Spurs started making a few.If you go back to last year,you'll see that Duncan missed a lot of shots late in the final game against the MAVS.Every other year they do that.That's why I bet PGRDN last year,and didn't bet him this year.I bet him(last year) that Detroit would win it all,and he took the Spurs.To collect,one of them had to actually win it all.I will probably bet him again next year,but I have seen enough of this league's actions to know that they do overlook the Spurs thug activities(while not overlooking Dallas',or the Suns'.) So,I will tell you right now that any bet we do next year is gunna be null and void if any of the Spurs' post -season opponents just happen to be suspended games for fighting etc. Both these last 2 years just happened to have that league getting involved to give u a warm bottle.See,you got a tape showing Bowen intentionally kicking Stoudemire.I don't know if he went after his achilles.I just think the thug took his cheap shot when he had the chance.For you to say that it was unintentional would be contradicted by the tape.Mainly though,his past activities show that he takes cheap shots.So,why would Stern think this was unintentional? Cuz he wants to think that way.He would have to want to think that way(to come to that conclusion.)Anyways,PGRDN,just know if Stern helps you out again(3 years in a row) the bet will be trashed.
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$1000 on somebody other than the Spurs to win the Championship in 2008.If you are so damn sure they can repeat,then shut up ,and put up.Don't talk it.Commit to it with $$.
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$1000 on somebody other than the Spurs to win the Championship in 2008.If you are so damn sure they can repeat,then shut up ,and put up.Don't talk it.Commit to it with $$.
Scuds: you're obsessing again! Basketball is a contact sport now...not that I like it that way(NCAA rocks). I heard an interestin trade rumor last night involving Kobe going to the Bulls for Deng,Henrich,and Gordon. If I was the Lakers...I'd make that trade in a heartbeat! You?
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Scuds: you're obsessing again! Basketball is a contact sport now...not that I like it that way(NCAA rocks). I heard an interestin trade rumor last night involving Kobe going to the Bulls for Deng,Henrich,and Gordon. If I was the Lakers...I'd make that trade in a heartbeat! You?
I would never trade him(KOBE.)HOW DO YA TRADE A GUY THAT GIVES 100% ALL THE TIME? That team is the way it is because the smart guy(West) Left.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:34 AM
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Kobe is right ....the franchise is a mess! And the way it is now....it won't be fixed for awhile...cuz Doc Buss won't spend more dough.
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Somebody looks them in the eye.To be honest,Duncan then gets to missing easy shots.If you look Duncan dead in the eye,and match his team's intensity,then Duncan will miss easy shots.The Cav's grew a set for what? About 4 or 5 minutes on Sunday Night..Spurs(all the sudden missed shots.) When the Cav's started missing a few,the Spurs started making a few.If you go back to last year,you'll see that Duncan missed a lot of shots late in the final game against the MAVS.Every other year they do that.That's why I bet PGRDN last year,and didn't bet him this year.I bet him(last year) that Detroit would win it all,and he took the Spurs.To collect,one of them had to actually win it all.I will probably bet him again next year,but I have seen enough of this league's actions to know that they do overlook the Spurs thug activities(while not overlooking Dallas',or the Suns'.) So,I will tell you right now that any bet we do next year is gunna be null and void if any of the Spurs' post -season opponents just happen to be suspended games for fighting etc. Both these last 2 years just happened to have that league getting involved to give u a warm bottle.See,you got a tape showing Bowen intentionally kicking Stoudemire.I don't know if he went after his achilles.I just think the thug took his cheap shot when he had the chance.For you to say that it was unintentional would be contradicted by the tape.Mainly though,his past activities show that he takes cheap shots.So,why would Stern think this was unintentional? Cuz he wants to think that way.He would have to want to think that way(to come to that conclusion.)Anyways,PGRDN,just know if Stern helps you out again(3 years in a row) the bet will be trashed.

Remember Scuds is the same guy that said at least 100 times Tony Parker was a choker and would NEVER win a championship. He was 19 years old at the time so the ability to pick out good basketball and players is highly suspect. Scuds also said Sheed was the answer after 1 championship against a Shaqless Laker team. I told him what happens with Sheed when things dont go his way. He gives up and pulls some crap to relieve himself.

Look in the eye. Pure horse ****. The Spurs play like a team and dont get rattled. The Eastern Conference was just bad. And Phoenix whining wont win a championship. The only guy on the team that realizes this is Nash.

Stick to the golf Scuds. You have not a clue.

David Stern wants the Spurs in the championship because of the TV draw... yes indeed. The refs are told let Bowen get away with everything and send Duncan to the foul line as much as possible. Makes so much sense.

Lebron is young and will get calls as soon as he learns not to get himself in impossible positions where the refs wont bail him out.

Quit your whining Scuds. The Spurs have the best record of any sports frachise over 70% in the last 10 years. No other franchise can claim this. And its all because David Stern likes them. Perfect logic. Its because they got lucky with the lottery (Robinson and Duncan) and surrounded them with good players.
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Remember Scuds is the same guy that said at least 100 times Tony Parker was a choker and would NEVER win a championship. He was 19 years old at the time so the ability to pick out good basketball and players is highly suspect. Scuds also said Sheed was the answer after 1 championship against a Shaqless Laker team. I told him what happens with Sheed when things dont go his way. He gives up and pulls some crap to relieve himself.

Look in the eye. Pure horse ****. The Spurs play like a team and dont get rattled. The Eastern Conference was just bad. And Phoenix whining wont win a championship. The only guy on the team that realizes this is Nash.

Stick to the golf Scuds. You have not a clue.

David Stern wants the Spurs in the championship because of the TV draw... yes indeed. The refs are told let Bowen get away with everything and send Duncan to the foul line as much as possible. Makes so much sense.

Lebron is young and will get calls as soon as he learns not to get himself in impossible positions where the refs wont bail him out.

Quit your whining Scuds. The Spurs have the best record of any sports frachise over 70% in the last 10 years. No other franchise can claim this. And its all because David Stern likes them. Perfect logic. Its because they got lucky with the lottery (Robinson and Duncan) and surrounded them with good players.
He asked why they can't win 2 years in a row,and I told him why.I said Parker needed a sports psychologist,and you can't tell me he didn't get one.He was choking,and he probably did get help for it.Just because you don't value them(sports psychologists) doesn't mean pro athletes feel the same. The part about me saying he will never win a championship is simply a lie.That's a new lie this year that you brought out.You never said that before this year,but a couple weeks ago you started up with that lie.You didn't say that last year,or in 2005. The farther away from the time period in question,the more creative you get.Enough talk,teacha. Put ya money up.$1000 says somebody other than the Spurs win it all in 2008.You have always said they can indeed win it 2 years in a row.So,shut up,and put up.Next lie you gunna tell is that I said the Spurs couldn't win it this year.
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The series simply boils down to the Cavs being overmatched at every position but one. Not that it matters in the long run but Ithink the refs have let both teams get away with far too much contact. Obviously LeBron hasn't earned celebrity status in the eyes of the refs because he is getting fouled pretty much everytime he goes toward the hoop but very few have been called. You could not get within an arms length of Jordan or Bird without a fould being called, and that was when the NBA wasn't called in such a soft manner. The missed call on Bowen at the end was bad but the charge they called on Manu in the third quarter was as bad a call as I've seen, maybe ever. But in the end the Spurs are too versitile offensively, played very good defensively(of course Cleveland being inept has a lot to do with that) and have a deeper, more talented roster with an very good Coach. Cleveland just does not have much talent, a 2nd year head coach , missing a starter, too many issues.

When you watch San Antonio you wonder what the hell happens to them every other year?

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He asked why they can't win 2 years in a row,and I told him why.I said Parker needed a sports psychologist,and you can't tell me he didn't get one.He was choking,and he probably did get help for it.Just because you don't value them(sports psychologists) doesn't mean pro athletes feel the same. The part about me saying he will never win a championship is simply a lie.That's a new lie this year that you brought out.You never said that before this year,but a couple weeks ago you started up with that lie.You didn't say that last year,or in 2005. The farther away from the time period in question,the more creative you get.Enough talk,teacha. Put ya money up.$1000 says somebody other than the Spurs win it all in 2008.You have always said they can indeed win it 2 years in a row.So,shut up,and put up.Next lie you gunna tell is that I said the Spurs couldn't win it this year.
I'll take every other year for another 15 years. You can have your two and done.


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Tony Parker will never win a championship... Never. What about it Scuds. We are going on three with Parker. And cut it with the lie stuff. Total BS. Typical Californian... he needs therapy... WHAT A TOTAL CROCK.

And since you always refer to my profession, what is it exactly that you do for a living?

Give me odds with the 1000. There are quite a few other teams. What odds?
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